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i finished my install yesterday and there is static noise coming from the speakers when say i pause the cd or ipod, its not loud but if i pause and turn up the volume it gets louder but when the music plays you can't hear it at all. Maybe you can hear it a little bit when like the intro of a song is about to start and there is some talking going on no music yet. My ground wire is not 100% oxygen free wire its that silver twin type wire its 1/0 gauge and its making contact to bare metal. I grounded it to the passenger side frame about one inch away from the seat belt bolt there was already a hole there so thats why i just used it. I would be okay with drilling a new hole on the bottom of the floor if it would make this noise go away. Please help its just bothering me i looked everywhere.
sounds like u either have the factory bose amp and u didnt use a module when installing the head unit....or if u installed a new amp for your mids/highs your gain is too high
What module? yes i am using the bose amp still and also using a 4 four channel amp for just the front speakers right now. This is just until i buy the sub and amp for the sub.
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It's because you used a previous hole....you need to make a new hole (ground), scuff the paint to the bare metal, and ground = should solve problem
Make sure to check where you are making new holes not to damage anything else.
Make sure to check where you are making new holes not to damage anything else.
Details on what you installed? Obviously an amp, but what else?
Just the simple fact that the static gets louder when you turn up the volume on your head unit leads me to believe that the problem is coming from the head unit... But without knowing everything you installed I can't help any more than that.
Just the simple fact that the static gets louder when you turn up the volume on your head unit leads me to believe that the problem is coming from the head unit... But without knowing everything you installed I can't help any more than that.
while the suggestions about bare metal ground etc are helpfull ( and totally accurate.. suprising how many ppl still dont do it) , that hiss and crackle is generally line level associated.
If it cant be cured by properly adjusting gains, it is most certainly an issue that you get when trying to retain factoy amps, especially BOSE. The impedance of the speakers and the line levels on the amps are vastly diff than aftermarket stuff.
It is ALWAYS best to completely bypass the factory mess unless you drive a 120k dollar car w integrated stuff etc. Ours is FAR from that quality.. yank it out.
So if all those things dont check out, it is also possible that there are cold solders in the Amp or the head unit. Any truly competent shop that does auto starts etc ( hard to do, you generally need to know your high level electrical stuff to install those) can accurately trouble shoot this for you fairly inexpensively.
I did just that for a very long time as my previous career.
Why i stopped, I will never know. The bank gig pays the bills better i guess. ha.
If it cant be cured by properly adjusting gains, it is most certainly an issue that you get when trying to retain factoy amps, especially BOSE. The impedance of the speakers and the line levels on the amps are vastly diff than aftermarket stuff.
It is ALWAYS best to completely bypass the factory mess unless you drive a 120k dollar car w integrated stuff etc. Ours is FAR from that quality.. yank it out.
So if all those things dont check out, it is also possible that there are cold solders in the Amp or the head unit. Any truly competent shop that does auto starts etc ( hard to do, you generally need to know your high level electrical stuff to install those) can accurately trouble shoot this for you fairly inexpensively.
I did just that for a very long time as my previous career.
Why i stopped, I will never know. The bank gig pays the bills better i guess. ha.
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Reading your message, I think your ground is good, and I don’t think that is the basis for the problem you describe.
You mention adding an external amp to a Bose system, and also maintaining an existing Bose amp. That is a very tricky setup. Depending upon your other equipment (H/U, speakers, SubW, additional amp) the result could go anywhere from awful to barely acceptable.
If you are willing to describe your setup with more detail, you will get better help instead of just guesses.
--Spike
You mention adding an external amp to a Bose system, and also maintaining an existing Bose amp. That is a very tricky setup. Depending upon your other equipment (H/U, speakers, SubW, additional amp) the result could go anywhere from awful to barely acceptable.
If you are willing to describe your setup with more detail, you will get better help instead of just guesses.
--Spike
Reading your message, I think your ground is good, and I don’t think that is the basis for the problem you describe.
You mention adding an external amp to a Bose system, and also maintaining an existing Bose amp. That is a very tricky setup. Depending upon your other equipment (H/U, speakers, SubW, additional amp) the result could go anywhere from awful to barely acceptable.
If you are willing to describe your setup with more detail, you will get better help instead of just guesses.
--Spike
You mention adding an external amp to a Bose system, and also maintaining an existing Bose amp. That is a very tricky setup. Depending upon your other equipment (H/U, speakers, SubW, additional amp) the result could go anywhere from awful to barely acceptable.
If you are willing to describe your setup with more detail, you will get better help instead of just guesses.
--Spike
I have a pioneer headunit, 4-Ch pioneer Amplifier GMD9500F,TSD1720C pioneer Component Speakers, This is all that is installed right now including the bose sub and rear speakers. The bose sub and rear speakers is just for two weeks or so until i buy the sub and amp, then they will also be removed. Another question when i take out the rest of the bose where exactly is the bose amp so i can take that out also so it does not cause this static if that is the problem which sounds like it is. I ran the power wire and remote turn on wire for the amp along the passenger side door side under the carpet. there is one or two points where the right side door speaker wires cross the power wire would this cause any static? Last the rca cable is on the other side running along the driver side under the carpet. Im thinking this could be the problem it looks like a cheap pair of rcas is there a certain brand everyone here went with that blocks out noise. thanks for all the advice i will try a new grounding point.
one more thing when i change my listening device like from cd to ipod or ipod to radio i hear a pop or crack. Also when i change the sound settings like flat powerfull custom ext i also hear a pop or crackel
I am still trying to wrap my head around HOW the system is installed.
Is it: Deck > factory amp > high level to Pioneer amp?
Or: Deck > Pioneer amp via low level (RCAS) AND factory integration with high level from the deck to the Bose amp to power the rears and sub?
Or: Deck > Pioneer amp via low level (RCAS) AND factory integration with low level from the deck to the Bose amp to power the rears and sub?
Is there a line level converter installed?
The Bose amplifier is located in the trunk floor at the left of the spare tire when looking from the rear of the car. The subwoofer amplifier is located right beside the subwoofer behind the driver's seat. My suggestion to you (as others have said) is to yank both Bose amplifiers out and throw it off a cliff, bridge, moving car or a small or large boat. Set up that four channel amplifier properly by running new speaker wires to your speakers when you can. Ditch the rear speakers because they too are junk and should not be replaced. Save your money!
Is it: Deck > factory amp > high level to Pioneer amp?
Or: Deck > Pioneer amp via low level (RCAS) AND factory integration with high level from the deck to the Bose amp to power the rears and sub?
Or: Deck > Pioneer amp via low level (RCAS) AND factory integration with low level from the deck to the Bose amp to power the rears and sub?
Is there a line level converter installed?
The Bose amplifier is located in the trunk floor at the left of the spare tire when looking from the rear of the car. The subwoofer amplifier is located right beside the subwoofer behind the driver's seat. My suggestion to you (as others have said) is to yank both Bose amplifiers out and throw it off a cliff, bridge, moving car or a small or large boat. Set up that four channel amplifier properly by running new speaker wires to your speakers when you can. Ditch the rear speakers because they too are junk and should not be replaced. Save your money!
I am still trying to wrap my head around HOW the system is installed.
Is it: Deck > factory amp > high level to Pioneer amp?
Or: Deck > Pioneer amp via low level (RCAS) AND factory integration with high level from the deck to the Bose amp to power the rears and sub?
Or: Deck > Pioneer amp via low level (RCAS) AND factory integration with low level from the deck to the Bose amp to power the rears and sub?
Is there a line level converter installed?
The Bose amplifier is located in the trunk floor at the left of the spare tire when looking from the rear of the car. The subwoofer amplifier is located right beside the subwoofer behind the driver's seat. My suggestion to you (as others have said) is to yank both Bose amplifiers out and throw it off a cliff, bridge, moving car or a small or large boat. Set up that four channel amplifier properly by running new speaker wires to your speakers when you can. Ditch the rear speakers because they too are junk and should not be replaced. Save your money!
Is it: Deck > factory amp > high level to Pioneer amp?
Or: Deck > Pioneer amp via low level (RCAS) AND factory integration with high level from the deck to the Bose amp to power the rears and sub?
Or: Deck > Pioneer amp via low level (RCAS) AND factory integration with low level from the deck to the Bose amp to power the rears and sub?
Is there a line level converter installed?
The Bose amplifier is located in the trunk floor at the left of the spare tire when looking from the rear of the car. The subwoofer amplifier is located right beside the subwoofer behind the driver's seat. My suggestion to you (as others have said) is to yank both Bose amplifiers out and throw it off a cliff, bridge, moving car or a small or large boat. Set up that four channel amplifier properly by running new speaker wires to your speakers when you can. Ditch the rear speakers because they too are junk and should not be replaced. Save your money!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Stereo-Radio-Amp...item1bfe4e55f2
the first install i did back in 2008 was this upgrading the stereo but still using the factory speakers. Now im upgrading everything but mean while just the front speakers with an amp are upgraded im still waiting on the sub and sub amp.The link above has four rca plugs right now im only using two rca plugs for the rear bose speakers plus rear bose sub. then the blue remote turn on wire coming from the pioneer deck harness to hooked up to the blue/white wire to turn on the radio antenna and blue wire to turn on bose sub and then another wire to turn on the pioneer 4 channel amp. Hope this helps explain my setup
u dont still have the front speakers hooked up to the bose amp behind the radio do u?....what i mean is the white white/black grey grey/black hooked up to those wires behind the head unit
Please forgive me if I’m being dense, but I’m still am unsure of your setup and wiring.
I agree with the advice from orgasm_donor.
If you install an aftermarket non-Bose external amp (or use an internal amp in a non-Bose H/U), you must disconnect/replace your Bose amps. Failing to do this will always result in the problems you describe.
--Spike
I agree with the advice from orgasm_donor.
If you install an aftermarket non-Bose external amp (or use an internal amp in a non-Bose H/U), you must disconnect/replace your Bose amps. Failing to do this will always result in the problems you describe.
--Spike
Last edited by Spike100; Jan 10, 2011 at 07:43 PM.
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