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Old 03-24-2004, 12:46 PM
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Alright fellas, I got one for ya.

I am in need of a 10" subwoofer. It needs some pretty specific requirements, cost is not really one of them. I need a dual voice coil (4ohm x2) single woofer designed for a low volume enclosure (preferably around 1-1.5 cu ft). Power handling needs to be in the 200-500w range w/ peak handling well above that.

Since its a low volume sub, I know that bottom end will be sacrificed, but I'd still like to reach down towards 25-35hz., if I can.

This will be powered most likely by a dedicated PPI or JL amp. I am also not averse to aluminum cone or flat woofer; but none of these "box" or "pentagon" shaped woofers - cirlces only!

Please let me know what you guys can come up with, once I can find this woofer then I can start on the enclosure.

Thanks!
Old 03-24-2004, 12:50 PM
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JL W6 V2 I have 2 in my Z. It pounds unless you want to go with a JLW7. JL all the way in my opinion.
Old 03-24-2004, 12:57 PM
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Ported or sealed?

Doesn't go as low as 25hz, but I always liked the Alumapro Alchemy subs. Also check out Crystal's CMP2 (I think that's the model) and Image Dynamics' IDMax. Those are my favorite subs. They're all very clean sounding subs.
Old 03-24-2004, 01:20 PM
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Hmm, good point, forgot to mention - sealed enclosure.

I will take a look @ the models y'all have suggested.

Thanks!
Old 03-24-2004, 01:26 PM
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infinity kappa perfect.. i have 2 of them in my trunk
Old 03-24-2004, 01:59 PM
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Wow... The inifinity kappa perfect looks awesome. My only concern is that it has a freq spike @ around 70hz (sometimes where you might get that "flaring" sound out of a sub - ie it "sounds" louder than when it hits on all other freq's.)

Nonetheless, $329 msrp, 2ohm, 350w rms handling, and supposed response down to 18hz?!?!? I don't belive that, the rolloff is probably very sharp, but I think this is the sub for me (I especially like the shorter mounting depth than the JL.)

MrB thanks for your suggestions too, only the subs you opted for tended to require larger volumes.

Now to find a reputable dealer and get started on the "project". I will have more details as this thing develops.
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focal 27kx: 11" that will fit in 10" hole

279mm (11") subwoofer
65mm (2.5") v.coil
Max. power handling: 600W.
Nominal, power handling: 300W.
Sensitivity (2.83 V/1m): 88dB.
Frequency response:_
35Hz-1500Hz.
Impedance: 4.5?
Suitable for sealed enclosures 20-40 liters.
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or this

IDQ10V.2 D4
10”
250/500
Dual 4 ohm
13.2 mm
.25 - .50 cu.ft.
.75 - 1.00 cu.ft.
IDQ12V.2 D2
Old 03-24-2004, 02:30 PM
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Oh just for an update I just ordered Perfect 6.1 Fronts and Perfect 10.1D Sub. They're on their way.
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Adire Audio Brahma 12 = SQSPL heaven
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RF hx2... all the way.
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BOSE!

just kidding.
Old 03-25-2004, 03:02 AM
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You will not be disappointed with the JL Audio 10W6v2-D4 ... I love mine ! Plays low, very efficient in a small sealed (.75cuft) box. I would highly recommend it...
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Oh yeah, I forgot the Crystal requires a big enclosure. The Alchemy can be put into a 1 cubic foot box. The IDMax will still sound good with a 1-1.5 cube box. I used to work 3 years in the car audio industry and of all the subs I've tested, I love those subs.
Old 03-25-2004, 12:51 PM
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Mr B,

Yeah, I worked in car audio for a couple years (used to manage a small store up in Nor Cal). . .

Anyways, I really appreciate all the input from you guys. I guess I decided to go with the infinity because I'm familiar with the brand, and I found a smoking price on a D10.1D Sub, which meets all of my criteria (low volume, tall excursion, massive powerhandling, good "value"). Also I got a deal on ordering both the sub and the fronts - and I have heard the perfect 6 1/2" seperates and they sound killer.

Onecoolee - I used to have 3 jl 10's powered by an xtant 1000w amp that I loved (this was in my 300zx). Comparing both the JL and the Infinity, I could get a better price on the Infinity.

The system is coming together. I've decided on a PPI 4x80w main amp for the fronts & rears (probably go with some basic Inifity's for the rears 6 1/2" coax). I'm going to have my shop pre-wire for a sub but not actually go with installing the sub for a few weeks while I build the sub box. This is going to be a pretty custom job, so look forward to seeing something pretty cool when I get it all wrapped up.

Thanks for all your help!
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glad i could help you out
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Originally posted by dczoner
Oh just for an update I just ordered Perfect 6.1 Fronts and Perfect 10.1D Sub. They're on their way.
I initially had the perfects in my car. They sound good but man I was blown away by the quality of focal. I had to make the switch, the difference is unbelieveable
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Old 03-25-2004, 11:19 PM
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Just look at the difference in the tweet size. The inifinities could fit in the stock location. The new focals needed a mod but the sound quality is "killer" as someoned else said
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Old 03-25-2004, 11:22 PM
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And for your sub question. I have always been a JL fan. I had 3 JL 12W6s in a cut through box in my old truck. I now have a single 10W6v2. It is "booming" - i believe it meets everything you are looking for.
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Old 03-25-2004, 11:23 PM
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A closer look with the neon on.
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