There really is no major change. I just chose to use a different enclosure. The module is now potted. That means it is an open enclosure that is filled with electronics epoxy. I feel this is a better approach because: This thing is now impervious to the elements and can work underwater. It protects the unit and the nav system in the unlikely event some liquid should spill onto it. (McDonalds biggie soda). It also protects the circuits from the extreme temeprature and humidity the car will encounter. The circuit uses adavnced surface mount semiconductors which are TINY and the circuit traces are even TINIER. Encapsulating the circuit provides another level of proctection for the rough car environment. The epoxy is a heat transfer agent also allowing the voltage regulators to dissapate heat

Other than that everything is laid out the same.

 

Sorry price was listed incorrectly. It should be $60.00. Oops. $65.00 includes shipping.

 

Any plans for a PS2 to Nav device?

 

I can do something for the PS2 but the PS2 is limited in that it lacks a HardDrive. You will be limited to playing games, MP3's and DVD's from disk rather than directly from a hard drive. If there is a sincere demand I will do it. I am getting a spare LCD screen from another forum member. That will allow me to perform tests without tearing my own car apart.

 

I don't know if it matters or not, but there is a product for the PS2 called HDloader. They no longer sell it (Sony made them take it off the market), but you can still find them on Ebay and around the net. Basically, the network adaptor for the PS2 has an IDE hard drive connector built onto it. Just attach an IDE drive to it, slide it into the PS2, and this HDloader program allows you to rip all your games to the hard drive and play them from there. I've been using it for a few weeks, and it's fantastic.

Just wanted to mention it. Don't know if it'll help you any.

But on that note, if you ever want to make a device that will get rid of the nag screen on the Alpine nav units, let me know. (!)

 

There is an Alpine module availible:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW

The PS2 stuff sounds really cool, and the PS2 is MUCH easier to mount in the Z/G, given the large size of the Xbox. You should try adding standard video inputs to the module to make it more universal, and adding audio capabilities will make it an all around product, instead of just taking care of the video! If you could produce a box that accepted ALL video inputs and plugged into the SAT port of the HU you would have a very hot seller, asuming you could beat the $400 price tag of similar units already on the market. You could probably even MATCH the $400 price tag if you can get digital audio into the HU instead of using an FM modulator like everyone else uses!

Kevin

 

Ah man, you had me excited for just a second! I already have that unit. (Another brand, actually, but the same thing.) That was required to make my Alpine lcd screen work with the PS2.

What I'm talking about is the *nag* screen when you first turn on the navigation unit. It requires you to hit "okay" before it will continue. Same as the factory nav unit. I just need a way to bypass that stupid nag screen each time I start the car. Ugh.

 

I'm sure his circuit will work. All you need is to 'close' the contact on the NAV unit X amount of seconds after the accesory power is turned on. There is a wide variety of ways to do it, some cheap (microcontroller), some expensive - timing relay.

I'm not positive, but I would imagine Generators circuit just creates a short ground pulse roughly 4-5 seconds after the car is turned on. You would have to tear your Alpine apart and see if the switch goes to ground when you push it. You would then have to solder a wire (or two if its not switched to ground) directly to the circuit board of you Alpine nav unit (voiding all things resembling a warranty). Like I said before, KPtechnologies VDC module can be used for this, it creates a pulse roughly 5 seconds after the car is started, but, all end soldering is left to the installer.

Kevin
www.KPtechnologies.net

 

Would it be possible to connect a backup camera to this?

I'm getting my nav system in November and i would love to connect a camera to it but i don't know how...

Peter

 

Can you make a chip that able us to operate the NAV even when the car is moving?

 

SirZ: You dont need a circuit to operate the NAV while driving. Ally uo have to do is interupt the speed pulse line with a little switch.

Peter: About the backup camera. Nissan processes the backup camera thru a seperate module and then passes that video to the nav contoller and then the nav screen. You would need the camera and the $$$additional$$$ device to get that to work. You could do it with homebrew circuits I guess.

Jreiter: You could use the nag circuit in the Alpine radio. As Kpierson says it is a very simple process. The difficult part is getting the courage to be the one who opens up the Alpine and gets busy with a little wiring. I could not offer any asistance unless of course you lived in the NYC area.

 

Do a search, its been done time and time again. The only drawback is that when you perform the mod it interupts the NAV's speed sensing wire, so the NAV doesn't think the car is moving. This can mess up all the things related to moving, such as NAV location.

 

I think we're on two totally different pages here. I'm referring only to the nag/warning screen when you first power on an Alpine nav unit, requiring you to press the 'okay' button. This is totally unrelated to the foot/hand brake wiring emulators which send pulses to the lcd screen, allowing it to work while driving. (The lcd screen and nav unit are two separate pieces.)

But anyway, I don't mean to jack the thread. I'll shut up about the Alpine stuff since there is no way to address it as of yet. (Unless someone can figure out a way to modify the software on the dvd or the firmware, perhaps.)

 

Both systems work exactly the same, they turn on and before you can use them you have to agree by pushing OK. The OK button is an electronic switch, all this module does is tricks the unit into thinking the OK button was pushed, so it would work exactly the same no matter what brand it is. It will work with the Nissan 'OK' button or the Alpine 'OK' button. It's all basically the same thing!

PM me if you have any other questions so we don't get too far off track in this thread.

Kevin Pierson
www.KPtechnologies.net

 

so how hard is it to install this no-nag?

 

Super easy

Look at this link. It shows the install on a MO and an FX

http://www.nissanmurano.org/forums/s...5&pagenumber=4

 

does the xbox install only require splicing of the 4 wires for the nav screen?

 

I’ve done the install already and it was a piece of cake. It only requires you to cut 4 wires from the Nav Control Unit, the black box behind the driver side. These wires are 18 (brown), 21 (white), 15 (red), 20 (pink). Make sure to verify your pins before you cut.

 

Be nice if XBOX can have like a wireless nic card. So I can load my mp3s and stuff on it.

 

FINALLY!!! been looking for something like this forever.

a few questions if you dont mind.
1. 175 for the bypass and xbox setup?
2. do you include directions on how to go about doing everything?
3. what else do i have to buy for the audio to work? and how much does it cost?
4. how did you install the xbox to have run on the cars 12v setup?
5. how much does an xbox cost nowadays?

looking to buy asap.