since i've been talking up the 6.5" subs so much...here is an install :)
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since i've been talking up the 6.5" subs so much...here is an install :)
since i have talked a bit about hte EU700 6.5" subwoofer from elemental designs, i figure i will show an install done with them...in a big SUV no less
the goal was simple:
1. keep the trunk as stealthy as possible
2. good sound quality
3. dont cost an arm and a leg
the customer supplied the two alpine amps, the avic d2 navigation unit, and i gave him the rest.
one of hte goals of creating a stealthy install on a budget in an SUV is that there is simply no place for anyhting to go out of sight. side boxes that fine but they are expensive to build and out of budget for this install.
so i decided that this was a perfect opportunity to use the elemental designs 6.5" EU700 subwoofer. a pack of four was used. the amp rack and subwnclsoure rises only 4.75" from the floor, making for a rather unobtrusive back.
DLS 426 component coaxials were used inthe door locations, and a ps2 and ipod adapter was installed also in the gloveboxes.
here are the pics:
note: i hate it when the carpet i ordered looks two shaders yellower than on the sample color card oh well...i will try to find some lighter carpet to match better later
first up is the avic-d2, installed in the factory location:
here is a dark pic of the ps2, and ipod adapter in the glovebox
the main attraction is obviously the trunk area. here is the view through the open back window wit hte stock cargo mat in place, this would be say the view of a thief if he were looking through your window at night...nothing obvious, perhaps the floor seems a little high but definetly not high enough for a subwoofer
and here is the bulk of the install, with the hatch open and the cargo mat off...
again, sorry for the yellowish carpet lol
vented pop off panels hide the subwoofers and amps
well, incase you guys wondering what the pack of 4 6.5" subs soun dlike even with a rather small amp power them, they are as loud as a good 12, and they are extermely natrual, and can easily reach down to 20hz and below. no wondering since they have over 13mm of one way xmax...
a few Z forum guys heard this install at the meet today, and most guess that people had were for two 10s or a 12 or a 15 lol and
anyway thats all, any questions, comments and or criticisms welcome
the goal was simple:
1. keep the trunk as stealthy as possible
2. good sound quality
3. dont cost an arm and a leg
the customer supplied the two alpine amps, the avic d2 navigation unit, and i gave him the rest.
one of hte goals of creating a stealthy install on a budget in an SUV is that there is simply no place for anyhting to go out of sight. side boxes that fine but they are expensive to build and out of budget for this install.
so i decided that this was a perfect opportunity to use the elemental designs 6.5" EU700 subwoofer. a pack of four was used. the amp rack and subwnclsoure rises only 4.75" from the floor, making for a rather unobtrusive back.
DLS 426 component coaxials were used inthe door locations, and a ps2 and ipod adapter was installed also in the gloveboxes.
here are the pics:
note: i hate it when the carpet i ordered looks two shaders yellower than on the sample color card oh well...i will try to find some lighter carpet to match better later
first up is the avic-d2, installed in the factory location:
here is a dark pic of the ps2, and ipod adapter in the glovebox
the main attraction is obviously the trunk area. here is the view through the open back window wit hte stock cargo mat in place, this would be say the view of a thief if he were looking through your window at night...nothing obvious, perhaps the floor seems a little high but definetly not high enough for a subwoofer
and here is the bulk of the install, with the hatch open and the cargo mat off...
again, sorry for the yellowish carpet lol
vented pop off panels hide the subwoofers and amps
well, incase you guys wondering what the pack of 4 6.5" subs soun dlike even with a rather small amp power them, they are as loud as a good 12, and they are extermely natrual, and can easily reach down to 20hz and below. no wondering since they have over 13mm of one way xmax...
a few Z forum guys heard this install at the meet today, and most guess that people had were for two 10s or a 12 or a 15 lol and
anyway thats all, any questions, comments and or criticisms welcome
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nice work dude, very clean. I'v been thinking about making some custom kickpanels and slapping some JL 6 inch subs in them and testing it out. Since I'm full of free time now I feel like getting into crafting boxes again.
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elemental designs eu700 is at 50 dollars per sub
a lot of peopel doubt them and think they will hear that in the end, they will sound different than say a 10 or 12...well, i have yet to find anyone who has heard this setup to think they are 6.5s
its not for everyone of course, but for a space saving install they are great needless to say anyone who is a techno person will really really enjoy the great transient response on them
kick panels are NOT good places for subs of any kind unless you do a ton of work and acutally get a solid sealed air space enclosure in there
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a lot of peopel doubt them and think they will hear that in the end, they will sound different than say a 10 or 12...well, i have yet to find anyone who has heard this setup to think they are 6.5s
its not for everyone of course, but for a space saving install they are great needless to say anyone who is a techno person will really really enjoy the great transient response on them
kick panels are NOT good places for subs of any kind unless you do a ton of work and acutally get a solid sealed air space enclosure in there
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Originally Posted by 16psibrick
elemental designs eu700 is at 50 dollars per sub
a lot of peopel doubt them and think they will hear that in the end, they will sound different than say a 10 or 12...well, i have yet to find anyone who has heard this setup to think they are 6.5s
its not for everyone of course, but for a space saving install they are great needless to say anyone who is a techno person will really really enjoy the great transient response on them
kick panels are NOT good places for subs of any kind unless you do a ton of work and acutally get a solid sealed air space enclosure in there
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a lot of peopel doubt them and think they will hear that in the end, they will sound different than say a 10 or 12...well, i have yet to find anyone who has heard this setup to think they are 6.5s
its not for everyone of course, but for a space saving install they are great needless to say anyone who is a techno person will really really enjoy the great transient response on them
kick panels are NOT good places for subs of any kind unless you do a ton of work and acutally get a solid sealed air space enclosure in there
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hehe i thought cali would be too much competition, so i just did a few system for fun to start, but then i learned of how many hack shops there are around here and saw some horrifying work...then people started callin. if you do good work you should always have a good customer base
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Very clean install ... nice and stealth.
Only complaint is the amount of floorspace (all of it) dedicated to a simple sub setup. I'd rather glass in a nice 10er and hide the amps under the seats ... just my thoughts
Only complaint is the amount of floorspace (all of it) dedicated to a simple sub setup. I'd rather glass in a nice 10er and hide the amps under the seats ... just my thoughts
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What about putting those subs in the spot behind the seats on our cars. Since most of us have the sound faded to the front, what if you were to use the subs as the rears? Would that sound decent?
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if you are taking about hte stock sub location, then of coures its doable, but the stock sepaker location would not be good, not enough air space and tons of vi brations
and not deep enough either
the sub box is not that big, the goals it make a copmpltely fake floor type of install so the trunk mat can stay and look more stealth
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and not deep enough either
the sub box is not that big, the goals it make a copmpltely fake floor type of install so the trunk mat can stay and look more stealth
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The lower the frequency, the more air you must move.
That is why tweeters are small and woofers are big (essentially)
When you have a smaller cone area (a 6.5" in this case) ... you need to move in and out more (stroke = xmax) .. in order to produce low frequencies with some authority
That is why tweeters are small and woofers are big (essentially)
When you have a smaller cone area (a 6.5" in this case) ... you need to move in and out more (stroke = xmax) .. in order to produce low frequencies with some authority
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jim, dont forget to factor in the cone-summing effect when you group a number of subs togher.
as for xmax, these have more htan 13mm of clean stroke one way
as for airspace, they can be in anywhere from .2-.5 cub feet, the larger the enclosure, the lower they can go.
in this case, my concern is with depths rather than area, so i had plenty of area to build a 2 cubfeet enclsoure that is only 3.75" high internally...but they will work fine down to 20hz even in the smaller size enclosures
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as for xmax, these have more htan 13mm of clean stroke one way
as for airspace, they can be in anywhere from .2-.5 cub feet, the larger the enclosure, the lower they can go.
in this case, my concern is with depths rather than area, so i had plenty of area to build a 2 cubfeet enclsoure that is only 3.75" high internally...but they will work fine down to 20hz even in the smaller size enclosures
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Originally Posted by 16psibrick
i am doing a Z in a few weeks with 4 of them how can two 10 s fit and not four 6.5s hehe
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i saw these in action, they sound very clean and deep
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Love the install. I love when people use smaller subs in there vehicles. I personally have 2 6w04's in my Z right now and it sounds awesome. Told you I could be positive from time to time