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Old Apr 1, 2004 | 12:30 AM
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Several weeks ago, after I washed the car I noticed that one lot of bird ***** left a stain on the paint job.

I tried to remove it with a finishing agent (which removed some light scratches BTW), but this did not word. Subsequently washed again and the stain won't go away.

Has anyone else had this problem and if so how did you get rid of the stain?
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Old Apr 1, 2004 | 12:45 AM
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A bird ***** has left a yellowish stain on my hood, i can't get it out, my z is silver by the way.
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Old Apr 1, 2004 | 12:53 AM
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I hate to say it but you may be out of luck. I'd suggest posting something in the car care section here as someone may have foud a way to remove it but really the only way AFAIK is removing the top layer until the stain is gone but that may mean going all the way through the clear coat.

What did you try? I must admit I found a small, light stain after washing last week that I couldn't remove with washing or the paint cleaner but was able to remove it without much effort using ScratchX. Maybe you just need to try something a little harsher.
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Old Apr 1, 2004 | 12:53 AM
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It happen to mine recently. Go out there and get Meigular Scratch X. Also use dawn to clean the spot and then wash it wash it again with your normal car wash liquid. Dry it and start applying the Scratch X (read instruction on the back).

I did mine for almost 1 hour, just keep applying scratch X and rub it as hard as possible on the stain (the rubbing part is up to you, because this might scratch your car too, so apply another swirl remover is highly recommended. Mine is gone and can't really see the scracth as well. So do it in your own responsibility ). Then until you can't really tell where is the Stain was. Apply swirl remover all the time and you are up.

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Old Apr 1, 2004 | 01:33 AM
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Thanks - I'll buy some Meguire's Scratch X and try to remove it on the weekend.

BTW, the finishing agent I used was a product with the brand name Auto 1 (not the store). I got it from the place that did my paint protection (behind McGrath Nissan at Sutherland).
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Old Apr 1, 2004 | 02:09 AM
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You may want to contact the guys that did the paint protection. Not only should they be able to recommend how to fix it they should fix it for you for free, afterall isn't this the sort of thing the paint protection is meant to prevent?

Is yours one that has to be reapplied annually? If so you must be about due for the renewal so it could be an opprtune time to have them look at it.

EDIT: BTW contact them before trying the ScratchX as that may void the paint protection warranty.

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Old Apr 1, 2004 | 02:10 AM
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Its more than likely bat *****. Those little buggers have a very acidic crap and it kills your paint.

Try the scratch remover and I am trying to think here....I am thinking Mothers something or rather from Autobahn. Worked good on my Skyline with the same issue.

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Old Apr 1, 2004 | 02:58 PM
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Although it's too late for now, for what it's worth I once saw a demo at a car show -

They poured undiluted ACID over a BMW bonnet and it remained totally unaffected-

Trick was merely CARANUABA wax as the final coat to polish.

Put it on over a polished finish very sparingly - and buff off as you go - you'll do the whole car in 10 mins and frankly it's the best shine I know.

Perishes in sunlight in about a month, though.

Just another wash, chamois and 10 mins and it's like new again -
and no bird stains possible.

BTW, the paint protection mob have a case to answer IMHO.

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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 12:22 AM
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Zaino does the same... if you get it on before the birds do you'll be safe.

Nothing sticks to my car...even bird **** slides off...
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 01:48 AM
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Thanks for the responses guys.

The paint protection is not worth the paper its written on. In fact, I recall the fellow at that store telling me a story about a bird ***** stain that could not be removed from another guys car, that also had the protection applied. He advised washing any stains as soon as they are noticed.
Apps' idea of a microfibre cloth in the glovebox for cases such as these is the way to go.
No I don not need to reapply annually, but when I last spoke to the guy at the paint protection shop and pressed him on the best method for obtaining a glossy lusture, he advised I should in future use canubra wax to pollish the duco. Although he said you only need to do it every 6 months. Every month as Frosty suggested may be a safer option. The wax may have to wait until after Easter though.
Well, I'm off to Super Cheap / Autobahn tomorrow morning for Scratch X / Mothers Milk depending on what's available.

Zuffy - nothing sticks to your car, but the brilliant shine must blind the truck drivers!
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 04:20 PM
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That explains why that truck tried to run over me.... he was blinded by the light!
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Originally posted by zuff
Zaino does the same... if you get it on before the birds do you'll be safe.

Nothing sticks to my car...even bird **** slides off...
Zaino is the best by far. The birds out here have toxic waste coming out of them.....yellow/orange funk! I clean my CS baby as soon as I come home with the Zaino....works wonders. But it has to be done a.s.a.p. I keep some in the car just in case....can we say Obzessive???
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 01:45 AM
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lol... yeh!

That's a bit over the top. I've found with 6 coats of zaino that the bird **** doesn't stick even after a few days.

I have noticed that it is worth clay barring the car every 3 months or so... couldn't believe the crap i got off my car.
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by zuff
lol... yeh!

That's a bit over the top. I've found with 6 coats of zaino that the bird **** doesn't stick even after a few days.

I have noticed that it is worth clay barring the car every 3 months or so... couldn't believe the crap i got off my car.
Yup, just clayed the car 2 weeks ago, and what comes off is incredible....and you're also right about the many coats of Zaino. It helps alot, but I still keep the bottle in the car. Made a HUGE mistake going shopping, and wanting my baby AWAY from car door dingers....so parked under a tree! YIKES!

My car looked like a Leopard with yellow spots.....got the Zaino out in the parking lot and flew home to wash it! Wow....Jen's got a lot of time on her hands, huh???
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 03:45 PM
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I've had the car just over a year now - park outside under the trees all the time.

Wash it weekly.

Spend (literally) 15 mins monthly and put a coat of carnuaba wax on very thinly.

No stains - car shines like a new pin.

I've posted elsewhere about the sulphuric acid on the BMw bonnet and the protection afforded by the wax.

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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 03:50 PM
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Parked under a tree yesterday morning. Same tree I've parked under dozens of times (at a friends). This time it decided to drop sap all over the car. Drove home and rinsed it off. I just use a wax.
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 11:51 PM
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Bought some Mother's Canubra Wax on Fri and will be applying on Mon - no more bird ***** for me!
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Old Apr 24, 2004 | 12:10 AM
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Put it on VERY sparingly and buff off before it hardens.

I like to use the little sponge applicator pads.

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Old Apr 24, 2004 | 12:25 AM
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I was thinking of using some old undies - is that advisable or should I go and buy some of those pads you mentioned Frosty?
Where do you get them from and what brand are they? How big are they (you say little)?
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Old Apr 24, 2004 | 01:03 AM
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STREWTH! - the mind boggles! Innocence can't be beat!

Yer cood finish up with wors'n BIRD ***** on the car if yer arn't real careful, and. . . . . . and . . . . . and . . . . .

The pads are yellow foam, two to a little pack, about 110mm circular and about 200mm thick - like little pancakes.

They wash out with a little detergent when you're finished.

Good idea to use them microscopicaly damp - give them a good squeeze out after soaking in water and then apply the polish.

USE FOR APPLICATION ONLY.

They're impressed with the "Meguiar's" logo.
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