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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 11:59 PM
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Hi peter'

i notice on your website that you have developed an APS Plenum for 350Z. Just wondering what material is it made from? and how much will it cost?

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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 12:00 AM
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I just saw that as well.

Seems to be for forced induction though.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 07:47 PM
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Hi peter'

i notice on your website that you have developed an APS Plenum for 350Z. Just wondering what material is it made from? and how much will it cost?

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yun
Hi Yun, we are a number of months away from releasing the APS Tall Boy plenum and the plenum will be designed and tested to suit both N/A and TT applications. The APS plenun will be cast in alloy and NC precision machined....as to cost I will let you know when I have final figures......at the moment we are concentrating on the US market..... so no OZ pricing has beem considered yet.:cool

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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 08:27 PM
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Could you please supply the US price then?

All the other plenums are in the US and we order all our other mods from the US or Japan so the US price will be fine.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 09:40 PM
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Here some cad drawings.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 09:41 PM
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Another view:

Full details :- http://www.**************/350z/plenum/plenum.htm
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 12:40 AM
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Originally posted by mchapman
Could you please supply the US price then?

All the other plenums are in the US and we order all our other mods from the US or Japan so the US price will be fine.
Mate the US prices (not yet final best estimate only) are not relevant to Australia............GST and exchange rate factors come into play here...........will let you know when I have final prices for Australia.

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Peter - will the tall boy plenum fit under the bar?
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 03:16 AM
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Guys read the US thread.

The price is 395 USD plus a new strut bar. Depending if they manufacture in the US it'll be pretty expensive by the time it gets here unless we get a one-off bulk group buy.

Maybe APS will expect some interest in OZ and do us all a favour.
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 04:00 AM
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Originally posted by KY350
Peter - will the tall boy plenum fit under the bar?
The APS Tall Boy Plenum will require a new strut brace........this is in development and I will post pics on the APS web site when I have final engineering sign off.

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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 03:56 PM
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Mate the US prices (not yet final best estimate only) are not relevant to Australia............GST and exchange rate factors come into play here...........will let you know when I have final prices for Australia.

APS,
I am totally aware of this but there is nothing stopping us from ordering from the US, every other mod most people have on their cars are from the USA or from Japan. Also by knowing the US price we can compare it to the other US plenums that are on the market. I realise the prices are preliminary and will take with a grain of salt but if you have the numbers and posted them elsewhere I dont think you needed to with hold them.



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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by APS
Mate the US prices (not yet final best estimate only) are not relevant to Australia............GST and exchange rate factors come into play here...........will let you know when I have final prices for Australia.

APS,
I am totally aware of this but there is nothing stopping us from ordering from the US, every other mod most people have on their cars are from the USA or from Japan. Also by knowing the US price we can compare it to the other US plenums that are on the market. I realise the prices are preliminary and will take with a grain of salt but if you have the numbers and posted them elsewhere I dont think you needed to with hold them.



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No worries and your right...............there is nothing stopping people importing the part from the US..............though these prices would be plus freight, import duty and GST...... this is all I am trying to get across.

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I agree.

I'm also sick of companies that feel we should pay more for exactly the same product just because we're a smaller market. The product doesn't cost anymore to make. Sure we have to pay GST and perhaps a shipping fee but in most cases it's that and a chunk more just for the hell of it.

Not having a go at APS directly but rather the way the whole economy is going. It's at a point where I have a shipment coming from the US on a weekly basis. eg I just bought a watch that was delivered in 3 days for less than half the cheapest price I could find locally. So much for buy Australian and support Australian businesses.
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by APS
though these prices would be plus freight, import duty and GST......

The same as every other item we purchase from overseas. i.e 99% of mods.

Originally posted by Apsilon
So much for buy Australian and support Australian businesses.

Good observation. Hope you like your watch.

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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 08:33 PM
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It's at a point where I have a shipment coming from the US on a weekly basis. eg I just bought a watch that was delivered in 3 days for less than half the cheapest price I could find locally. So much for buy Australian and support Australian businesses.
Well this is probably the reality that Australia business faces today.........it costs a lot of money to service a very tiny market...........and this is the reason that many small business people can't survive in such a small economy.

And it's going to get worse yet.............make sure you have a good import broker.

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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 04:03 AM
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Originally posted by APS
Well this is probably the reality that Australia business faces today.........it costs a lot of money to service a very tiny market...........and this is the reason that many small business people can't survive in such a small economy.

And it's going to get worse yet.............make sure you have a good import broker.

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Not necessaraly true Peter.

I previously worked in sales for a very large Multinational company (listed on the US and Euro exchanges) and sold medical equipment.

In Australia, we sold an item for approx AUD1.2M. This identical item was sold in the US for USD1.0M. With the exchange rate at AUD 1.00 = USD 0.50, the Americans were paying $2M Australian dollar equivalent for the same item.

So the factory supplying the medical devices made much more profit selling in the US than here. Also, the US accounted for 50%+ of the worldwide market and Aust accounted for about 1% of the worldwide market. So we were flysh!t in comparison to the US sales but our customers payed almost half the price of their US counterparts.

Why?

Because the market in the US would tolerate those high prices and the Aussie market would not.

So the parent company sold to maximise profit.

The same applies with all companies - sell for maximum profit.

But in this millenium, and with the advent of e-marketing / sales, consumers are no longer restricted to buying from within their local suburb / town / city / state or even country, where they have to pay the higher prices demanded by sellers. We can now search the world for commodities and pay cheaper prices.

We all want APS Aust to succeed in business, but please ensure your prices are reasonable, and not just in comparison to your direct local competitors but in comparison to suppliers overseas. If the product can be purchased cheaper overseas by end consumers, then your company will missout on sales.

Reasonable pricing permitting, I do prefer to buy locally.
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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by APS
.............make sure you have a good import broker.
I do it all msyelf, why pay someone to do something that's not overly complex. Been importing stuff for about 10 years now but I've noticed I'm doing it with a lot more frequency in the past couple of years. The worst part is occasionally the stuff I'm importing is actually made here yet it's cheaper for me to buy OS and ship it back than buy it locally.

I agree with Ky as well, I'd prefer to buy here but not when I have to pay more for the same item.
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 09:21 PM
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We all want APS Aust to succeed in business, but please ensure your prices are reasonable, and not just in comparison to your direct local competitors but in comparison to suppliers overseas. If the product can be purchased cheaper overseas by end consumers, then your company will missout on sales.

Thankyou for your comments and I can assure you APS intends to be successful in the Australian market under the right commercial conditions (under profitable conditions).

Bottom line APS aims to produce very high quality products and not all products are designed and manufactured to the same high level of engineering or performance,this obiviously impacts on the sale price of the product..............consumers will either purchase a particular product or not depending on their viewpoint, the product in most consumers eyes must deliver good value for money, high performance, and exceptional quality.............APS aspires to excell in all 3 of these areas.

I can assure you we will do all in our power to release APS 350 Z products onto the OZ market at the best posible price (That's if we decide to release all 350Z products in australia and that the decision has not beeen made) though please remember to compare apples to apples not apples to oranges.

It does cost more to support a small market with a low volume product so if potential customers want good customer and technical service support, products would be at a slightly higher price in Australia............part of this higher price is also related to the GST.

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Peter
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 05:29 PM
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Peter, are you able to let us know when you expect the plenum and strut bar to be available??
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by Perth 350z
Peter, are you able to let us know when you expect the plenum and strut bar to be available??
Perth350z.........good to hear from you..........if all goes to plan with the development and tooling we will have the APS tall boy plenum and strut bar released around november 04.

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Peter
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