I survived my first track day! The Z did GREAT!
11-07-2006, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mistico
Congrats on your first Track day! They sure are a blast.
I know what you're saying about the brakes. I couldn't finish my first trackday either because of brakes, and the car only had 2500 miles.
Nice pics too.
There is another laguna day on the dec 23rd that I'll be attending. Hope it doesn't rain..
I know what you're saying about the brakes. I couldn't finish my first trackday either because of brakes, and the car only had 2500 miles.
Nice pics too.
There is another laguna day on the dec 23rd that I'll be attending. Hope it doesn't rain..
11-07-2006, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by mhoward1
Just a change of pads can make your brakes last longer. The Stock 350Z without brembos is still under braked, but a set of Carbotechs, Hawks, or the like can make a world of difference with good fluid like Motol or Super Blue. OEM's can be gone in as little as 3 sessions, then the brake fluid is shot because of all the heat.
I did! I have Hawk pads and ATE super blue!
11-07-2006, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by kognition
No, that car went right out the front gate, and he never looked back. Never came back to the paddock. Awkward moment there i'm sure.
11-07-2006, 10:56 AM
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Are there any websites that have like all the track events posted somewhere?
On the East Coast we have http://www.trackschedule.com
I bet there is one for the west coast too.
11-07-2006, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JRSport018
Are there any websites that have like all the track events posted somewhere?
www.SpeedVentures.com
www.RedlineTrackEvents.com
www.RedlineTimeAttack.com
www.Trackmasters.com
And you can also check out the track's websites, they usually have calendars...
www.ButtonwillowRaceway.com
www.WillowSpringsRaceway.com
www.Laguna-Seca.com
www.InfineonRaceway.com
www.SpringMountainMotorsports.com
and so on...
11-07-2006, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by JRSport018
Are there any websites that have like all the track events posted somewhere?
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11-07-2006, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mhoward1
Hawk Plus or above??
HPS's don't last any longer than OEM ones.
HPS's don't last any longer than OEM ones.
11-07-2006, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by qu8ttro
Thanks for checking anyways! 
I should get a camcorder too 
I should get a camcorder too 
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...66825156327462
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...86804370758275
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11-07-2006, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by qu8ttro
yup HPS...thats what I got. What do you mean by last longer? I still have plenty of pad left...just no grip.
If it was the latter, it means you didn't bed the pads in properly and they've glazed over.
If your pedal got real mushy and you had to push it farther to the floor, it means you boiled your fluid. Even high-temp synth fluid can boil.
My guess, since it was your first event, was that you were starting your braking too early, and not braking strong enough, staying on the brakes longer than necessary. This will heat up the pads and fluid beyond what they were designed for, but will not wear out the pad material.
11-07-2006, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Stack
If it was the latter, it means you didn't bed the pads in properly and they've glazed over.
HP+ are the ones to get for track days. They'll make noise under light braking but once they warm up they're good.
here are the rest of the pics from that track day. pick the nov. 2
i'm in a miata #17. looks like the OP is #150. i was approx 2:09 on average street tires. an evo IX next to me with race tires was running 1:49
http://www.gotbluemilk.com/November.html
11-07-2006, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Stack
Did you 'lose the pedal' or did you still have good pedal feel, just no braking force?
If it was the latter, it means you didn't bed the pads in properly and they've glazed over.
If your pedal got real mushy and you had to push it farther to the floor, it means you boiled your fluid. Even high-temp synth fluid can boil.
My guess, since it was your first event, was that you were starting your braking too early, and not braking strong enough, staying on the brakes longer than necessary. This will heat up the pads and fluid beyond what they were designed for, but will not wear out the pad material.
If it was the latter, it means you didn't bed the pads in properly and they've glazed over.
If your pedal got real mushy and you had to push it farther to the floor, it means you boiled your fluid. Even high-temp synth fluid can boil.
My guess, since it was your first event, was that you were starting your braking too early, and not braking strong enough, staying on the brakes longer than necessary. This will heat up the pads and fluid beyond what they were designed for, but will not wear out the pad material.
11-07-2006, 01:30 PM
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Tip: make sure you clean your wheels VERY good after the event to get the track pad brake dust off them -- it is very corrosive! CARBOTECH track pads aren't too bad in that respect, but a friend of mine put Hawk Blues on his WRX and did a track event. A day after the event we had a big wind/rain storm here and his car took damage from fallen tree limbs, etc. It sat at the body shop for 3 weeks until all of the repairs were done. The body shop did an excellent job on his car, but the Hawk Blue dust ate into his wheels and now they look like they were on a car sitting in the farmer's field since 1973! 
I felt bad for him. Now he has to get new wheels.
I felt bad for him. Now he has to get new wheels.
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11-07-2006, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Sk8fe
Tip: make sure you clean your wheels VERY good after the event to get the track pad brake dust off them -- it is very corrosive! CARBOTECH track pads are too bad in that respect, but a friend of mine put Hawk Blues on his WRX and did a track event. A day after the event we had a big wind/rain storm here and his car took damage from fallen tree limbs etc. It sat at the body shop for 3 weeks until all of the repairs were done. The body shop did an excellent job on his car, but the Hawk Blue dust ate into his wheels and now they look like they were on a car sitting in the farmer's field since 1973! I felt bad for him. Now he has to get new wheels.
I felt bad for him. Now he has to get new wheels.Sh*t...i gotta wash my car this weekend then. thanks for the tip. I do see all the brake dust everywhere!
11-07-2006, 01:37 PM
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I was there on Saturday but was very busy with my students so only got to run 2 sessions. I was lucky enough to go for a ride in the Carrera GT! What a machine !! It was nice seeing you again Eagle1. Wish I could have gone for a spin in your TT car.
My pad knockback got so bad my brake pedal went to the floor after the corkscrew and I almost bit it coming down into T2 because of this. New hub assembiles are going on this week at Z Car Garage.
None of you tracksters get this??
Is anyone going to thunderhill this coming weekend?
I'll see if I have time this week to download some video.
My pad knockback got so bad my brake pedal went to the floor after the corkscrew and I almost bit it coming down into T2 because of this. New hub assembiles are going on this week at Z Car Garage.
None of you tracksters get this??
Is anyone going to thunderhill this coming weekend?
I'll see if I have time this week to download some video.
11-07-2006, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by julian
I think the pads are fading, not necessarily glazed over.
HP+ are the ones to get for track days. They'll make noise under light braking but once they warm up they're good.
here are the rest of the pics from that track day. pick the nov. 2
i'm in a miata #17. looks like the OP is #150. i was approx 2:09 on average street tires. an evo IX next to me with race tires was running 1:49
http://www.gotbluemilk.com/November.html
HP+ are the ones to get for track days. They'll make noise under light braking but once they warm up they're good.
here are the rest of the pics from that track day. pick the nov. 2
i'm in a miata #17. looks like the OP is #150. i was approx 2:09 on average street tires. an evo IX next to me with race tires was running 1:49
http://www.gotbluemilk.com/November.html
you were there too? cool!
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When I jack my Z up on all 4's (on jackstands) and swap my street pads in after the event, I clean my wheels good while they are off the car. HRE's website (HRE Wheels) recommend a half and half solution of Simple Green and distilled water. I figure if a wheel company that sells $1000+ per wheel wheels recommend that to clean their high-end (or at least what I would consider high-end) wheels its good enough for me. No surprise, that solution works terrific! Cleans my Z's wheels right up after a 2 or 3 day weekend track event; best thing since sliced bread as far as wheel cleanup goes IMHO. I highly recommend it.
11-07-2006, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by daveh
I was there on Saturday but was very busy with my students so only got to run 2 sessions. I was lucky enough to go for a ride in the Carrera GT! What a machine !! It was nice seeing you again Eagle1. Wish I could have gone for a spin in your TT car.
My pad knockback got so bad my brake pedal went to the floor after the corkscrew and I almost bit it coming down into T2 because of this. New hub assembiles are going on this week at Z Car Garage.
None of you tracksters get this??
Is anyone going to thunderhill this coming weekend?
I'll see if I have time this week to download some video.
My pad knockback got so bad my brake pedal went to the floor after the corkscrew and I almost bit it coming down into T2 because of this. New hub assembiles are going on this week at Z Car Garage.
None of you tracksters get this??
Is anyone going to thunderhill this coming weekend?
I'll see if I have time this week to download some video.
Hey Z car garage is in my area...i've never been there tho...its on first street right?