Rented 350z crash at Summit Point?
12-04-2006, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by first350
ouch!! Were they hurt?
Seems like the argument against a harness bar without a roll cage should include these pics...with my helmet on, my head just touches the roof.
12-04-2006, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by commasense
I was at SPR yesterday for an instructors-only track day (I instruct FATT), and a fellow instructor showed me some pictures he took of the Z. The right-side A pillar collapsed and the roof was pretty much flattened on that side. Despite that, the instructor only suffered a cut lip (or bit his tongue; I heard both versions). Apparently the fact that he was rather short helped.
It occurred to me a little later that if I had not decided to skip that day, it might have been me in that car. I often make a point of taking students with Zs, and it might have been hard for me to resist another Lemans Sunset. Of course, with my superior instructing skills, he wouldn't have gone off.
It seems to have been the driver's first day, but I didn't find out anything else about him, or what happened afterwards. Presumably, he now owns a wrecked LS 350Z.
I asked the guy to e-mail me the pictures. If/when he does, I'll post them.
It occurred to me a little later that if I had not decided to skip that day, it might have been me in that car. I often make a point of taking students with Zs, and it might have been hard for me to resist another Lemans Sunset. Of course, with my superior instructing skills, he wouldn't have gone off.
It seems to have been the driver's first day, but I didn't find out anything else about him, or what happened afterwards. Presumably, he now owns a wrecked LS 350Z.
I asked the guy to e-mail me the pictures. If/when he does, I'll post them.
12-04-2006, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by redman333
I have an off topic question. How much does it cost to start getting into racing my Z on a track. I'm guessing I need a license which I believe I'v seen for about $3k or so. Does that sound right and are there any other costs.
12-04-2006, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Silkk
Holy-moly he did a number on that thing... I can't imagine what was goin through his head when he hit that pit knowing he was in a rented $30k+ vehicle.
I can't imagine what it'd feel like to wreck your own vehicle there, let alone someone elses... I'd love to do a FATT, but the Z is my only vehicle and still not paid off. I just don't know if I like the risk. I'm sure 95-98% of the cars come-out without a dent, but I have bad luck when it comes to Zs and 350z meets, etc.
I can't imagine what it'd feel like to wreck your own vehicle there, let alone someone elses... I'd love to do a FATT, but the Z is my only vehicle and still not paid off. I just don't know if I like the risk. I'm sure 95-98% of the cars come-out without a dent, but I have bad luck when it comes to Zs and 350z meets, etc.
12-04-2006, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by redman333
I have an off topic question. How much does it cost to start getting into racing my Z on a track. I'm guessing I need a license which I believe I'v seen for about $3k or so. Does that sound right and are there any other costs.
This one's not too bad either: https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....ow+to+track+my
I've found that many of the thread I'm thinking of are imbedded in other threads that may not be easily identifiable as answering your questions.
I'm still looking
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12-04-2006, 11:24 AM
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rich150001 and 05-Z, and anyone else: don't let these pictures scare you off. This is extremely rare, and as long as you listen to your instructor and don't do anything stupid, like try to break the track record your first day, you'll be fine.
The vast majority of new students (at least 99%) have no incidents at all, and just have a great time learning advanced driving techniques and about their car and themselves.
In that other one percent, the majority of driving errors new students make are spins or off-course excursions that cause no damage or, at worst, minor scratches. Most of the cars in that one percent drive home. It's rare to see dents, and very rare for cars to be undriveable or totalled.
Rarest of all (in my experience) are multi-car incidents. I can't think of any that I've ever seen at a FATT, and only a very small number at other non-racing track events. What this means is that what happens to you and your car on track is entirely in your control. You are probably safer, from a statistical point of view, on the track than you are out on the street.
So don't let a few scary pictures keep you from coming out and having the most fun you can with your pants on.
The vast majority of new students (at least 99%) have no incidents at all, and just have a great time learning advanced driving techniques and about their car and themselves.
In that other one percent, the majority of driving errors new students make are spins or off-course excursions that cause no damage or, at worst, minor scratches. Most of the cars in that one percent drive home. It's rare to see dents, and very rare for cars to be undriveable or totalled.
Rarest of all (in my experience) are multi-car incidents. I can't think of any that I've ever seen at a FATT, and only a very small number at other non-racing track events. What this means is that what happens to you and your car on track is entirely in your control. You are probably safer, from a statistical point of view, on the track than you are out on the street.
So don't let a few scary pictures keep you from coming out and having the most fun you can with your pants on.
12-04-2006, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Stack
slipangle... when done right, the passing restrictions should not get in the way... Once you do get into the more advanced run groups, even with passing restrictions, you hardly notice them. They are there for your safety, period. Yeah, you'll always have some people that are not as aware of whats going on around them... my question to you is this: Do you want to be passing someone who isnt aware of you? Also, thats where good instructors come in to play and help out. Also... don't forget about the pits... you should always be able to pit in and ask the grid marshall for some space.
As far as a Z club going to the track... we've been to VIR twice a year for the past six years... where have you been?! 
I'm getting ready to post a new thread with registration details for our event on VIR Full Course in February... we'll be on the North Course in April. Come one out...
As far as a Z club going to the track... we've been to VIR twice a year for the past six years... where have you been?!
I'm getting ready to post a new thread with registration details for our event on VIR Full Course in February... we'll be on the North Course in April. Come one out...
BTW, thanks for the pics from BSR. I really didn't expect anyone to know much about the incident. That is really not the way I would want to buy my next sports car.
12-05-2006, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rich150001
+1 just got some new coilovers and it'd be nice to test them out there but I don't like the risk of crashing my car
12-05-2006, 04:53 PM
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After I did an HPDE, I realized how much more the average Joe sucks at driving. I feel a lot safer on the track than the street.
Seeing a deer cross at the track would make me crap my pants.
Seeing a deer cross at the track would make me crap my pants.
12-06-2006, 04:35 AM
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I have video footage of a deer running out in front of me between turns 2 and 3 at The Point. Although it is from my old CVHS camcorder and I cannot convert to digital to view on PC. Talk about heart in your throat! That same weekend; although I don't know if it was the same deer, a 911 hit a deer on the front straight away on the SP track right before the brake zone at around 150mph! The deer flew 25 or 30 yards into the air and landed in the rocky infield area. The driver kept the car straight, hit the brakes and let the car come to a stop in the kitty litter. The driver was OK. The 911, not so OK. The deer had to be out down. This was Fall 2005 at a Porsche DE event. I think The Point needs to beef up their fencing around the facility. I have been at events where people have hit big turkeys and groundhogs, but you would think that you should be able to keep deer out with a decent fence.
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