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Old 03-30-2007, 08:35 AM
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#1 mod- yourself.

#2 mod- Tires. Same size all the way around. It will help with your understeer.

Practice with just these two until you realize your full driving style. After you've corded the tiers, you should know what you need to do next, as far as if you need to correct under/oversteer, ect.
Old 03-30-2007, 08:38 AM
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My mods for B Stock Tire:

17x7.5 front and 17x8 rear Volk LE28N wrapped in 255/40/17 Falken Azenis 615.(for B stock I would go hoosier all around same size)
Cusco solid FSB
Hawk HPS pads and Motul 600 Dot-4 fluid
JIC full Ti y-back
K&N drop in filter
Old 03-30-2007, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Fluid1
My mods for B Stock Tire:

17x7.5 front and 17x8 rear Volk LE28N wrapped in 255/40/17 Falken Azenis 615.(for B stock I would go hoosier all around same size)
Cusco solid FSB
Hawk HPS pads and Motul 600 Dot-4 fluid
JIC full Ti y-back
K&N drop in filter
With the camber we run stock, we will still get killed by the RX-8 in terms of turn in. We need a way to get some camber without changing that control arm
Old 03-30-2007, 11:17 AM
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I don't know of a way to add camber on the Z without becoming illegal for Stock. You might check the Suspension section of the forum. I'm doing my best to upgrade the driver.
Old 03-30-2007, 11:57 AM
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TMAK,
There is no way to increase front camber for BS.In case it may help you here is the setup we used on our 03 Enthusiast :

Wheels..........Kodiak(16.5#) 7.5,8.0x17
Tires.............Hoosier 275/40/17...today we would use Kumho 710 275/40/17
Shocks..........Koni DA's
Swaybar........Saner 32mm solid...your 04 OEM bar is close
Fuel load.......full tank
Toe(total).....F= 1/4" out, R= 1/16" in
Camber.........Fr -0.7L,-1.1R , Rear -1.4L,-1.4R
Exhaust delete pipe
Spacers.......1/4" front only

Jim and Carter Thompson
Old 03-30-2007, 12:02 PM
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Full tank of gas? Interesting . . . I started a thread recently regarding how much tank is ideal for auto-x. I'm curious to know why a full tank of gas works for you. I know when I tried it, my rear end was firmly planted the entire time. It actually felt solid but heavy (for obvious reasons). It also felt more balanced.
Old 03-30-2007, 01:10 PM
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We found out early on that both our Z's needed a full tank to minimize rear wheel spin on corner exit even with the big front bar(big bar is needed for same reason).The Z's advantage is using all that torque on corner exit and since there are very few straights in autox it all happens for the Z on corner exit.
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Thanks! Always nice to learn something new from our resident 350Z experts!
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Originally Posted by ULLLOSE
In 2006 he was 2nd in BS only a tenth back in his track on 285s. Then he saw the light and now owns an RX8.
Hello, nice to see you're still around. Who beat him?
-tony
Old 03-30-2007, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by tmak26b
With the camber we run stock, we will still get killed by the RX-8 in terms of turn in. We need a way to get some camber without changing that control arm

You're preaching to the choir. If you find something before I do, please let me know. I doubt that you will under BS rules.....
Same size rubber all around has been the biggest help. Now if I can only get the effing PSI right
Old 03-30-2007, 02:28 PM
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Thanks for the tip, how did you get over 1 degree of camber in the RF? Didn't someone in this post say you can squeeze almost 1 degree of camber in the car by playing with the upper bolt? If I can squeeze -1.5 degree in this car, I can pick up .5 sec I think.

I never thought about the full tank, maybe I should try it. I usually just use whatever I have in the tank that day.

Originally Posted by tomsn16
TMAK,
There is no way to increase front camber for BS.In case it may help you here is the setup we used on our 03 Enthusiast :

Wheels..........Kodiak(16.5#) 7.5,8.0x17
Tires.............Hoosier 275/40/17...today we would use Kumho 710 275/40/17
Shocks..........Koni DA's
Swaybar........Saner 32mm solid...your 04 OEM bar is close
Fuel load.......full tank
Toe(total).....F= 1/4" out, R= 1/16" in
Camber.........Fr -0.7L,-1.1R , Rear -1.4L,-1.4R
Exhaust delete pipe
Spacers.......1/4" front only

Jim and Carter Thompson
Old 03-30-2007, 02:31 PM
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I dont run at the SCCA level, but I run quite a bit at the local level with moderate success. I am interested in bringing the car to one of the national tour just to see what's out there. Let see if the slash and burn driving style will get me out of last place haha. I just have to beat at least one RX-8 so those guys can stop talking about how fast they are.
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Originally Posted by tomsn16
TMAK,
There is no way to increase front camber for BS.In case it may help you here is the setup we used on our 03 Enthusiast :

Wheels..........Kodiak(16.5#) 7.5,8.0x17
Tires.............Hoosier 275/40/17...today we would use Kumho 710 275/40/17
Shocks..........Koni DA's
Swaybar........Saner 32mm solid...your 04 OEM bar is close
Fuel load.......full tank
Toe(total).....F= 1/4" out, R= 1/16" in
Camber.........Fr -0.7L,-1.1R , Rear -1.4L,-1.4R
Exhaust delete pipe
Spacers.......1/4" front only

Jim and Carter Thompson
Is that Saner bar adjustable? If so, were you on full soft?
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Originally Posted by tmak26b
Thanks for the tip, how did you get over 1 degree of camber in the RF? Didn't someone in this post say you can squeeze almost 1 degree of camber in the car by playing with the upper bolt? If I can squeeze -1.5 degree in this car, I can pick up .5 sec I think.

I never thought about the full tank, maybe I should try it. I usually just use whatever I have in the tank that day.
Both of our cars had just under 1 degree on the left front and just over 1 degree on the right and that's probably what most have.Prying on the rubber bushed upper link is futile...unless you bend something which is a no no in stock class.
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Originally Posted by Fluid1
Is that Saner bar adjustable? If so, were you on full soft?
Our Saner bar had three holes. We ran the middle hole most of the time but used the full soft or full hard settings based on the surface conditions.
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Originally Posted by Fluid1
Hello, nice to see you're still around. Who beat him?
-tony
Jason Isley beat Carter by 0.100 seconds in 2006.He also won in 2005 by a bunch.He is THE MAN in BS.
Old 03-30-2007, 05:13 PM
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Or you could say he is the BS man. Depends on how you read his posts.
Old 03-30-2007, 06:07 PM
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I run a Roadster in BS, and was wondering if anybody had tried removing the counterbalance weight from under the front end? Or even the one under the rear?
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Originally Posted by damnyankee38
I run a Roadster in BS, and was wondering if anybody had tried removing the counterbalance weight from under the front end? Or even the one under the rear?
Not allowed in Stock class.
Old 03-30-2007, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PedalFaster
Not allowed in Stock class.
I know that, I was wondering if anybody had done it, and what, if any, benefit there was.


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