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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TRD2Nismo
as far as street use goes? if i used spl and just wanted to auto cross it one day with factory specs for camber and toe, with spls would the Z handle the same as stock with tanabe nf210s...or would there be more or less understeer then stock?
huh? why?
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 12:45 AM
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The SPL arms seem to be the way to go

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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TRD2Nismo
as far as street use goes? if i used spl and just wanted to auto cross it one day with factory specs for camber and toe, with spls would the Z handle the same as stock with tanabe nf210s...or would there be more or less understeer then stock?
The upper A-arms will allow you to adjust the alignment back to OEM spec. IF that's what you're asking. But OEM spec isn't the best setup for an autoX setup. You'd want more camber than OEM for these events.
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 07:02 AM
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Axelerate- I don't see your name on the list. Speaking of names, I'm really bad with those and can't remember yours even though we've met a few times. Look for me in a squealing blue BMW.
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 01:53 PM
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Axelerate- I don't see your name on the list. Speaking of names, I'm really bad with those and can't remember yours even though we've met a few times. Look for me in a squealing blue BMW.

Yeah i'm instructing and they dont have us on the list.
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 02:04 PM
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Yeah i'm instructing and they dont have us on the list.
Yea me too, I'll be instructing a friend in a nice black Evo 8.
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by dmoffitt
huh? why?

becuase i dont want to be messing around with the camber all the time, its a daily driver and only plan on auto Xing everyone once in awhile...and after every adjustment isnt it recomended that you get an alignment also? so id rather not pay for an alighnment everytime i adjust my camber...and im more mainly worried about tire wear on daily use
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TRD2Nismo
becuase i dont want to be messing around with the camber all the time, its a daily driver and only plan on auto Xing everyone once in awhile...and after every adjustment isnt it recomended that you get an alignment also? so id rather not pay for an alighnment everytime i adjust my camber...and im more mainly worried about tire wear on daily use
Have some faith in your own abilities!

It's not that hard to do...
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 07:50 PM
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I had tire wear issue with anything more than 1.6 degree, good luck!
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Kolia

Oh, go -3.0 degrees. More better
I understand what you are saying, but more camber = better is not necessarily true. You can add caster which increases effective camber during turns, while allowing you to have a greater contact patch for straight-line braking.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 01:59 PM
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I understand what you are saying, but more camber = better is not necessarily true. You can add caster which increases effective camber during turns, while allowing you to have a greater contact patch for straight-line braking.
Its true that there is such a thing as too much camber. Each driver, car, and track require different camber settings but caster is not a substitute for static camber. Caster only helps the camber curve (negative camber gain in bump) at some steering angle. The less the steering angle the less gain. In high speed, large radius corners you get much less camber help from caster then in lower speed corners. Static camber helps in the higher speed corners.

Caster also helps load the inside rear wheel in corners which helps power application. Again, the benefit is greater at larger steering angles (lower speed corners).
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by betamotorsports
Its true that there is such a thing as too much camber. Each driver, car, and track require different camber settings but caster is not a substitute for static camber. Caster only helps the camber curve (negative camber gain in bump) at some steering angle. The less the steering angle the less gain. In high speed, large radius corners you get much less camber help from caster then in lower speed corners. Static camber helps in the higher speed corners.

Caster also helps load the inside rear wheel in corners which helps power application. Again, the benefit is greater at larger steering angles (lower speed corners).
Thank you for this explanation (and the many others I've read from you about track stuff in general)... it makes perfect sense. I need to go read a suspension book or something
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