Well it is in BS because that is where the other 350Z's are until they decide. If it actually proves to be faster in BS they will change that. But for now till the SEB says otherwise, BS is where they are recommending it to go.

 

Uh, buddy, try again. Classing decisions are made by the Solo Events Board, based in part on input from the Stock Advisory Committee. Doug Gill is a member of the SCCA staff but not a member of either the SEB or the SAC. Doug's role in the process is to tag each piece of incoming correspondence and then route it to the SEB and SAC. That's the last involvement he has in the process; he does not participate in meetings or classing discussions. So while Doug is a great guy whose opinion we should respect, his opinion has no more bearing on classing decision than yours or mine.

 

You don't need me, you guys have it all figured out. Nothing is a done deal yet. However, if someone has data to show you could copy the seam welds it could help.

To my knowledge only one time a "tuner" version of a car that was hard/impossible to reproduce due to something like the seam welds has been put in the same stock class as its lesser version, the Type R in GS 1998, and that sucked @ss for everyone in GS. It turned out ok in the long run, hell the Type R still wont go away, but at the time it hurt.

So here is the issue as I see it from my personal non-SEB view... Right now you have a couple of choices for 350Z that may be the hot version, 2003 Ent, 2005 Track and yet to be seen how fast it can go 2007 in various trims. If the Nismo is truly a faster car then if you want to win in a Z you have to have it. That is fine if you already have one, but if you don't you are looking for a one year car that you can not build out of a base or other option pkg car. So I have a hard time seeing how letting a one year only "hot" car that can not be copied will help participation.

 

Obviously you didn't read. I said SEB. Go back and read the posts.

Doug is in contact daily with the SEB. I asked him since he has been aware of the NISMO 350z for 4 months now. For now the car is BS until SEB says otherwise.

 

I would not agree. You could pull that off at a local event, but imho no way you could put one on top at a Natl event without a protest that I think you would lose.

 

Then contact SOLO SCCA and tell them their recommendation is wrong and you know better.

 

Ok:
Please show us where Doug's name appears on the SEB directory, or alternately how he's "one of the main guys who decides what class the car goes into" when he's not a member of the SEB or SAC.

Alternately, you can admit you made an honest mistake by assuming that Doug has a say in car classing, rather than compounding your mistake by continuing to insist that he does when he does not.

 

He is the SCCA; Jason's on the Solo Events Board, you genius.

 

I will send myself a nasty note on the matter right away. Like I said nothing is a done deal, send in some data.

 

DOUG IS NOT PART OF SEB. He is in contact with the SEB every day with issues like this. He is the one that lets the SEB know about the cars.

I never said DOUG classed the cars himself. I said DOUG recommended it be in BS per the SEB for NOW until they decide where it goes.

 

I only have one vote, but I will be happy to sit this one out as it is the class I run in.

 

It's okay, I am done here now. I trust what Doug says with SCCA not some know it all on this forum that obviously thinks he knows better than SCCA and what was talked about with the SEB for now. Per what I know, we will possibly know in the next release of the Fasttrack.

 

Man, you're really not paying attention, are you? ULLLOSE / Jason is on the SEB. You're contradicting him; who do you think that makes the "know it all on this forum that obviously thinks he knows better than SCCA"?

Hint: Andy Hollis is also on the SEB, and he also told you you're wrong: http://sccaforums.com/forums/permali...ad.aspx#257126.

Yes you did:

You said it here.

Then you said it here.

Then you said it here.

I get it, though; you're selflessly volunteering yourself as a pinata so that we can entertain ourselves over the offseason. Thanks!

Edit: Typo fixes.

 

So lets put aside the argument of weather the 350Z is competitive in BS, even if the 2006 results show it is, and forget about the move to FS talk.

How is it a good thing, if the Nismo is faster, to obsolete every other 350Z in BS by allowing in the Nismo? Now the cost to run a Z in BS just went up for everyone in the class, except for the person that has one.

 

It's a good thing because he owns a Nismo Z. Duh!

 

That's funny because Andy told me himself to go by what DOUG says. And Andy ISN'T part of SEB. Andy races locally with me.

 

Again, you proved me right. I never said Doug classed the car himself. He recommended it per the SEB run in BS for now till they officially class it.

 

Look in the rule book or on the SCCA website... Andy is on the SEB, till the end of 2007, has been for five years.

 

If Andy was part of it, then why would he say this:

PS: To be clear, Doug said run it *regionally* in BS for now until the SEB classes it.

Like I have been saying from the start. It is RECOMMENDED to run in BS until SEB classes it. And even Andy said this. And since you say Andy is part of SEB, then he should be listened to right and not yourselves. lol.

 

Just like I said in post #25... Run it at local stuff, but show up to a natl event and it will be a different story.