I have Stance Coilovers, with Kinetix camber arms, and stillen rear Camber arms. 265/285, I love the way the car handles It feels great, Although when i go over bumps it makes a kind of clunking noise but i wonder if i would get a big benifit from switching. The Double down Time attack 350z runs them so they must be decent. I guess my question is, does anyone know if switching to a diffrent coilover kit would benifit me greatly.

 

Don't switch shocks. You should first diagnose your clunking issue, then focus on becoming a better driver (not trying to imply that you are a slow driver - everyone can get better on their current setup before throwing money around to go faster - pros and beginners alike). Leave the fine tuning until after you have tuned the one thing that every sports car craves...a capable driver!

 

good advise, well recieved,

 

GR+?
do you have the True coilovers in the rear or the ones with the OEM spring location?

I think the true coilovers in the rear make clunks but the newer oem spring location coilovers fix that problem.

 

I have the True rear.

 

What is your specific complaint about the handling? Or are you saying you want to get rid of them because of the clunking?

 

only complaint is there is too much oversteer, and I dont know if there is better, and how much

 

Need to diagnose the oversteer issue. With 265/285 tires shouldn't be oversteering excessively. Soften the rear and stiffen the front a little at a time to reduce the oversteer. If you have adjustable sways go to full soft front and rear and then drive the car and make small changes. Also too much rear dampening can reduce grip in the rear.

 

You're going to need to go into some detail before anyone can help you, IMHO. Have you tried adjusting the shocks at all to cure the oversteer issue? What are your current settings?

Describe your symptoms and the doctors will diagnose...

 

I have a real coilover in the rear and I don't have any clunking noises. It is likely your swaybar end links.

JET

 

you can't necessarily blame the suspension for the oversteer issue yet. while guitman is right in saying that we need more info, the most likely cause is that you are "overdriving" the car to cause this oversteer. learn throttle control around the corners, turn in, and exit speeds, then fine tune from there. usually when diagnosing a "problem," it is best to start with the fundamentals.

 

Don't get caught up on what other's run. It is no guarantee that you'll have a winning setup. They might be fast,....in spite of what they are running vs other non tuner sourced choices.

True coilovers have a history of having clunking issues traced to the lower shock mount in the control arm not being able to withstand the load in the bushing. Alex from Battle version had commented about offering a solid bushing to kill the issue, but also commented that he didn't see him every actually making the part.

Seams to me the easiest choice would be to call Stance and buy the parts to convert to the oem spring location.

 

its not excessive on oversteer, its very mild (hotchkis sways) rear sway is set to mid, front full stiff, the oversteer was worse with the rear at full soft. could it be the stock swaybar endlinks? tire pressure hot f-36 R-33,

If i steps out its gradual, but it is always the rear that slides first

I might need to be smoother with the throtlle, but stay on the gas out out of the turns to plant the rear more

 

I have the Stance coilovers and I have the noise but not the excess oversteer

 

How experienced are you as a driver? Can you even tell what your enhanced suspension setup is doing for you over stock?

 

how much have you experimented with your rear tire pressure? try bringing it up about 3psi and see what happens.

 

Wouldnt More tire pressure in the rear, induce more oversteer.
I said the oversteer is NOT exxcessive. With the combination of soft rear sway, stiff front (-2 deg camber in the front and -1.2 in the rear) the rear would break away easily. After i Stiffened the rear to the mid setting it got better.... Then when I set equal camber of -1.7 to the front and the rear it got even more ballenced. Almost as if it needed the camber in the rear.

I figure that the car was loose becouse it was too soft in the rear and and did not have enough camber, I have been told to run more camber up front than in the rear on My350z. But at the shop I work at Farnbacher loles, a 24 hour datona winner i was told i need more camber in the rear. I know i am not heating up the outside of the rear tires at the track.

As for expirence and feeling the change. Yes i feel it, its much stiffer, turn in is inhanced, I know a good suspension. I drive porsches at work all the time.

I am young, I dont have a ton of expirience but i know driving from carting, im not the fastest but I can drive my car at the limit alot. Many driving instructors have said my line sucks but my car control is awsome. at my first track day when i was 18 my instructor said that having a slight slide happen at 100 plus with a young driver was normaly a horrifing expirience. We had a similar thing happen to us and he told me he could not have corrected it better himself. I know what im doing. But i may be overdriving the car. I think in the heat and adrenalin of track driving I tend to turn in to hard.


LONG story short, Don't avoide my question becouse I am young. I know I have a pretty good understanding of what a car should feel like. But i am not expirience. I may well be overdriving. My line is not good, but i can hang with fast guys who drive good lines just buy driving at the very limit, or a higher limit than they would at a HPDE on a decent line. Im still off their times by just over a second.
forgive the grammer and spelling, I had to rush this out.

 

there are so many reasons you could be oversteering it is almost impossible for people on the internet to pinpoint it for you.

take the areas people have given you and start there.

- ride height F/R
- dampening settings
- spring preload
- tire pressure
- alignment settings
- swaybar adjustment
- your driving

lots of possibilities, no? I have stance coilovers and do not have a lick of oversteer from what I can tell, cept' when I want

 

not necessarily. it really depends on the tires and their operating temps and sidewall stiffness (among other things).

^^^that's why i made the suggestion to increase your rear pressure.

 

^^^what he said^^^