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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 12:20 PM
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Default Need help quick! Is a '05 350Z Track a good HPDE car?

New guy here, new to HPDE.

I ran my first two HPDE events last fall in my Corvette, and I am now hooked.

I am in the process of buying an HPDE car for my 16 yr old son, so we can do HPDE events together.

Is a 350Z Track a good choice? How about $13K for a 2005/ 30K miles?

I have found a very good deal on one, but I need to commit in the next two days.

So, please help me to decide. Is this a good overall choice? I have read a lot about the car, and it seems to be a very good balance between power, braking, suspension, etc. My only potential concern is lack of visibility for the driver to see other vehicles.

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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 12:22 PM
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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Oh Hell Yes!! it is a good HPDE car......and that sounds like a good price..

yo will just have to learn to use your mirrors for track usage...but it is fine once you get used to the limited rearward vision. Use the center mirror for just about everything...move the side mirror way out to see cars in the blind spot....then mass-the-gas

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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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EDIT: ha ha ha. I get it. You want mommy and daddy to buy you a 350Z.

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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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The 350Z track model is a great base to start from. The Brembo brake optiion helps novice HPDE participants with strong and easily modulated brakes throughout the day. Improving them with better DOT 4 fluid, brake pads and SS lines can be a good project for you and your son. The '05 models were also a little lighter and the price looks strong. Of course, a mechanical inspection and check of the car's history is always recommended.
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 01:44 PM
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I just bought an 03 (Track model) to use for HPDE's.
IMO, the only real disadvantage is weight - they are definitely heavy.
Other interesting thing is that you do not see many on the track (at least the track that I have been to)
The other car to consider is a Miata - light, inexpensive, lots of other Mazda drivers to run with. Might also be a more suitable car for a 16 yr. old.
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 01:49 PM
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BTW, you may be interested in this event (noticed you are in Kentucky)

http://www.motorsportreg.com/index.c...6DCB9D99F7D3C0
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13K for an 05 Track with 30k miles??? wtf!!! If that were true, the prices on our cars have dropped insanely in just the past year
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 04:34 PM
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Z-car prices are down for a couple of reasons...one is the 370Z is out now, and ALL car prices are WAY DOWN....because nobody is buying anything these days. So to sell something quick, you gotta drop the price to unheard of levels.


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13K for an 05 Track with 30k miles??? wtf!!! If that were true, the prices on our cars have dropped insanely in just the past year
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Originally Posted by AznSky
13K for an 05 Track with 30k miles??? wtf!!! If that were true, the prices on our cars have dropped insanely in just the past year
Yea, that sounds really low. I paid $14,700 for an 03 with 35,000 miles!
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Originally Posted by reserved
Yea, that sounds really low. I paid $14,700 for an 03 with 35,000 miles!
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Originally Posted by laze1
Oh Hell Yes!! it is a good HPDE car......and that sounds like a good price..

yo will just have to learn to use your mirrors for track usage...but it is fine once you get used to the limited rearward vision. Use the center mirror for just about everything...move the side mirror way out to see cars in the blind spot....then mass-the-gas

BTW: Are u on the NASA forum?
Yes, I am on the NASA forum, trying to learn as much as possible as quickly as I can. BTW, same user name on NASA. I am trying to decide between the 350Z and an '05 Mustang GT.

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EDIT: ha ha ha. I get it. You want mommy and daddy to buy you a 350Z.
Sorry, I am "dad", and this is my "Z":

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Originally Posted by NVR2L8


Sorry, I am "dad", and this is my ride:
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I assume that the car has to be street legal to be driven to and from HDPE? Since you own a Corvette, and are familiar with Corvettes, why not a Corvette? Just get one that you don't mind junking after it hits a jerry wall.
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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The Z is a much better car to track than an 05 Mustang.

That being said, the first thing you're going to notice as you start tracking the Z hard is that the base brakes are not up to track duty. The OEM Brembos are better, and with more aggressive pads, they will stand up better to track abuse. That being said, they still have their limits.

But before you start modding the crap out of the car, make sure your son's skill levels get up to the level of the car. Too many people on this forum (as well as other car forums) are too quick to mod their cars before their car driving skills and knowledge about suspension setups are up to the task. The end result is that they frequently end up making the car perform worse than stock, or too touchy at the limit for their driving skills to handle.

If I had to do it again, I'd start off karting instead of doing HPDE.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 04:35 AM
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I agree, the 350Z track is a very good HPDE. It's well balanced, offers just enough nannies to keep things a little safer, and has a good upgrade path is you or he decide to pursue that path later on, and I suggest he waits until later on.

I can also recomend the Miatas as well. While they are down on power, they more than make up the difference in weight savings, handling and balance and over all fun factor. Plus you can pick one up for under $5K and build it to spec miata easily. It is also a lot less in consumables as the year goes on.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by NVR2L8
Yes, I am on the NASA forum, trying to learn as much as possible as quickly as I can. BTW, same user name on NASA. I am trying to decide between the 350Z and an '05 Mustang GT.



Sorry, I am "dad", and this is my "Z":
Don't buy a Mustang unless you only want straight line power. They can't handle worth a crap. The 350Z is definitely a good buy so please buy it. Either that or look into Mazda 3s, RX8 for good cheap cars that handle very very good.
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the 350z is a great car for HPDE's. Since you own a corvette, it makes the 350z an even sweeter choice because both cars handle similarly and can be driven similarly. You guys can compare driving notes.

Although preferably, you want the Track model for its superior Brembo brakes, you can get pick up some aftermarket brake kits for $1600 brand new or buy them used for much less.
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Originally Posted by NVR2L8
Sorry, I am "dad", and this is my "Z":
Removable top, on a Z06?
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