serious race prepped build and i need some advice.
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that race was a good example of why i don't want to race t3. on that track a 350z wasn't competitive against the racelabz s2000s. i just dont want to race in a class where the track determines the outcome of the race depending on whether it is a curvier track or a straighter track.
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that race was a good example of why i don't want to race t3. on that track a 350z wasn't competitive against the racelabz s2000s. i just dont want to race in a class where the track determines the outcome of the race depending on whether it is a curvier track or a straighter track.
You just don't have a clue do you? SCCA has a group of involved member/racers (DRB) who determine what the rules will be and who try their best to equalize cars in all of the classes and last year they didn't get several cars very equal, especially the 350Z in T3 or T2. So they made some changes for 2011 and took off a fair amount of required weight in our 350Z and added a little to the Honda S2000 plus they also got a restrictor plate to slow them down. They are almost equal with the Honda being just a little more competitive.
Different tracks do allow different configurations (front wheel or rear wheel drive is one) to favor one car over another in a dry race or even more in a wet race but we race on many tracks and it sort of equals out over the season. You also have to take in consideration driver ability, tires, and the suspension and motor or computer development. If you run STO its going to be fun watching you run against the V10 Viper and V8 fully developed Corvettes.
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I would take the money you save with buying Wilwood brakes and use that for quality coilovers. I ran the past couple years on BC Coilovers and they suck, i can't say anything bad about my wilwood brakes.
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Your right I didn't have a clue. I have not read the touring classes rules since I decided against racinf in those classes. I did not mean to offend you if I did and I wasn't bashing your car. I just didn't think it was fair to be required to build to those specs when it was not equal. After you posted I went back through the rules and t3 does look more equal but I could not see where T2 had changed. The problem still exists though that I am too far along and too far below the minimum weight for both. I'm not trying to be difficult but why would you build a 350z for any class of racing if you doubted its competitiveness against higher class cars. It seemed to me like the m3 was pretty competitive and it is a similar platform to a 350z. I know I am not an expert with sccas happenings but atleast I am trying to get involved.
Your right I didn't have a clue. I have not read the touring classes rules since I decided against racinf in those classes. I did not mean to offend you if I did and I wasn't bashing your car. I just didn't think it was fair to be required to build to those specs when it was not equal. After you posted I went back through the rules and t3 does look more equal but I could not see where T2 had changed. The problem still exists though that I am too far along and too far below the minimum weight for both. I'm not trying to be difficult but why would you build a 350z for any class of racing if you doubted its competitiveness against higher class cars. It seemed to me like the m3 was pretty competitive and it is a similar platform to a 350z. I know I am not an expert with sccas happenings but atleast I am trying to get involved.
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OP, come to a NASA or SCCA race and hang out some...you will learn a great deal.
If you can make it to CMP Apr 30-Apr1, you can hang out with me and another guy racing a PTB 350Z...come on down...
http://nasa-se.com/2011Apr30.php
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If you can make it to CMP Apr 30-Apr1, you can hang out with me and another guy racing a PTB 350Z...come on down...
http://nasa-se.com/2011Apr30.php
JE
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OP, come to a NASA or SCCA race and hang out some...you will learn a great deal.
If you can make it to CMP Apr 30-Apr1, you can hang out with me and another guy racing a PTB 350Z...come on down...
http://nasa-se.com/2011Apr30.php
JE
If you can make it to CMP Apr 30-Apr1, you can hang out with me and another guy racing a PTB 350Z...come on down...
http://nasa-se.com/2011Apr30.php
JE
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I have discovered that's not really acheivable unless I stick with the brembo upgrade so I am just trying to decide if it is worth it to shell out for the bbk now or get the brembos now and put more towards other parts and wait until I have more cash for the bbk
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To the OP - what is your experience level that you feel the need for coilovers that offer adjustable compression and rebound? Do you have the datalogging equipment necessary to know what your adjustments are doing? Kind of a moot point anyway, as such coilovers start in the low $2k's, and even those leave a lot to be desired for a truly competive setup.
Personally, I'd start with Konis and NISMO race springs, change the bushings you're allowed to under class rules to solid SPL's, and go from there. Truly motorsport-worthy coilovers have a much higher entry point than your budget allows (double it, and you'll be closer to the ballpark)
Remember...all the parts in the world do not add up to a quick, let alone competitive car.
Personally, I'd start with Konis and NISMO race springs, change the bushings you're allowed to under class rules to solid SPL's, and go from there. Truly motorsport-worthy coilovers have a much higher entry point than your budget allows (double it, and you'll be closer to the ballpark)
Remember...all the parts in the world do not add up to a quick, let alone competitive car.
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nope, don't need anything...I carry it all with me, but thnx anyways...just come and hang out a look at race cars and see what a real race weekend entails. It normally is 45 mins of glory and 24 hours of hanging out BSing with other racers making excuses when we are not faster
...if things go well which they normally do.
I do ALL my prep work in the shop, and the car is race ready when I get to the track and roll it off the trailer. However, It will be very evident to you that not everyone does it that way....I call them the "Thrashers"...
Having said this I will now have weekend from Hell!
Note: My screen name is Laze1, and I am! and did I tell you I am a 57 yr old Grand Father?
...if things go well which they normally do.
I do ALL my prep work in the shop, and the car is race ready when I get to the track and roll it off the trailer. However, It will be very evident to you that not everyone does it that way....I call them the "Thrashers"...
Having said this I will now have weekend from Hell!
Note: My screen name is Laze1, and I am! and did I tell you I am a 57 yr old Grand Father?
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To the OP - what is your experience level that you feel the need for coilovers that offer adjustable compression and rebound? Do you have the datalogging equipment necessary to know what your adjustments are doing? Kind of a moot point anyway, as such coilovers start in the low $2k's, and even those leave a lot to be desired for a truly competive setup.
Personally, I'd start with Konis and NISMO race springs, change the bushings you're allowed to under class rules to solid SPL's, and go from there. Truly motorsport-worthy coilovers have a much higher entry point than your budget allows (double it, and you'll be closer to the ballpark)
Remember...all the parts in the world do not add up to a quick, let alone competitive car.
Personally, I'd start with Konis and NISMO race springs, change the bushings you're allowed to under class rules to solid SPL's, and go from there. Truly motorsport-worthy coilovers have a much higher entry point than your budget allows (double it, and you'll be closer to the ballpark)
Remember...all the parts in the world do not add up to a quick, let alone competitive car.