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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dhays
My own ignorant opinion is that if a new driver doesn't spin the Z a couple times, he isn't learning the limits. The Z likes to step out if you give it a bit to much power in a corner. After a couple of spins, you learn where that point is and stay below it. Stay away from race tires until you have more experience.
At the last autocross school I participated in, I spun my G a few times when trying to learn its limits exiting a corner. It helped.
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by burgundybaby
I was really into the drift scene. I understand the limits of the car and exactly where it spins and to what angle with whichever amount of throttle. I also understand how the tires play a role in it. I was a pretty good drifter but since all of my friends Autox and theres more of that around and that seems like a much better place to be, thats what id like to do.

Thats the whole reason i started this thread, i was wondering about the suspension bits most importantly. i know i just need the seat time and the practice going around a course but i know my tires, and i REALLY know where the cars "spinning" limits are.
I am a recovering overdriver. I have to remind myself, every event, not to let the car move too much. It "feels" fast, but every time I let the car move a few degrees here, a little tire noise there, it adds up by the time I cross the lights.

And when I'm doing it right, I feel like I'm going slow. Things feel too easy. I have to remind myself that just because there's no drama doesn't mean I'm going slow.

My brother is an underdriver. He has to check himself in the other direction. (He's been kicking @$$ lately too.)

I don't want to assume that you are an overdriver just because you have done drifting, but it may be that you are comfortable over the edge. That may be what "feels" fast to you. Part of seat-time is calibrating (and recalibrating) your "butt dyno."
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by burgundybaby
I was really into the drift scene. I understand the limits of the car and exactly where it spins and to what angle with whichever amount of throttle. I also understand how the tires play a role in it. I was a pretty good drifter but since all of my friends Autox and theres more of that around and that seems like a much better place to be, thats what id like to do.

Thats the whole reason i started this thread, i was wondering about the suspension bits most importantly. i know i just need the seat time and the practice going around a course but i know my tires, and i REALLY know where the cars "spinning" limits are.
Sorry, I didn't mean to insult you. If you have been drifting a while I'm sure you have a much better feel for that than I do as I generally try to keep the front and rear of the car tracking.

Again, it comes down to what your goals are. If you just want to have fun and don't care about competing in class, do whatever you want with the suspension. If you want to stay legal for any stock classes, then just stick to front sway.
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by dhays
Sorry, I didn't mean to insult you. If you have been drifting a while I'm sure you have a much better feel for that than I do as I generally try to keep the front and rear of the car tracking.

Again, it comes down to what your goals are. If you just want to have fun and don't care about competing in class, do whatever you want with the suspension. If you want to stay legal for any stock classes, then just stick to front sway.
Thank you. I'm not insulted at all. I really appreciate all of the help. The main goal here is to be a better driver. I'd really like to keep the stock suspension but because i have the upgraded rotors and intake stock class is out. So i'll probably do touring class. But for now i want to be a better driver. When i become more competitive and i want to start running as such, i'll be much more focused on which class to run.
I was a good drifter but this is a completely different ball game. I like a challenge and its not as taxing on the car, which is always good.
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Old Aug 2, 2011 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by silents1ick
i have been autox for a year now... and started out with stock Z... and like ppl mentioned about stock Z is capable of doing really good times.. its all about how u drive... for stock set upp take it 2 allignment shop and get AS MUCH NEGATIVE CHAMBER UP FRONT AS POSSIBLE...that helps alot.. especially in RWD cars... also if u have problem oversteering just remove the stock rear sway bar..
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"....your cheapest mod is improving your line, steering inputs and throttle and braking points in auto-x and once you have perfected that and you have found weak points in the car setup then you can start modding...."-2fast4ya
thanks for the reference of my statement
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