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Old Apr 22, 2014 | 07:45 PM
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I've run the Carbotech XP 10/8 combo for about 12 events with street tires. Love the pads. I use cheap Centric rotors as well. I've never had a rotor failure but one set did get a lot of micro cracks.

I agree with the two set approach. I change pads and rotors for every event. I've left the Carbotechs on for daily driving and they work fine but I get tired of the dust and noise. (The dust is not corrosive but there is a lot of it.)

I recently got RS-3 tires and the performance difference over high performance summer tires is huge and wonder if an XP 12/10 would better but will stick with the 10/8s for now.
I use to fade my xp10 on rs3 all the time.
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Old Apr 23, 2014 | 03:15 AM
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I just bought XP8/10s. Might try the 10/12 combo next time.
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Old Apr 23, 2014 | 05:25 AM
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Everyone just needs to make sure their fluid strategy matches their pad and tire strategy. The more aggressive the pad and tire combo, the higher thresholds the fluid will need, and will need to be changed more often.
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Old Apr 23, 2014 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by mhoward1
Everyone just needs to make sure their fluid strategy matches their pad and tire strategy. The more aggressive the pad and tire combo, the higher thresholds the fluid will need, and will need to be changed more often.
So far ATE Super Blue has worked fine for me. I've got a Motive pressurized bleeder and bleed each corner after each event. I alternate with the ATE Amber whenever I do a full flush.

Sadly Super Blue is no longer available. I got the last two bottles Ron had at Discovery Parts.

I think there are higher rated fluids out there and may need to step up if I go to XP12s up front.
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by mhoward1
Everyone just needs to make sure their fluid strategy matches their pad and tire strategy. The more aggressive the pad and tire combo, the higher thresholds the fluid will need, and will need to be changed more often.
I was using Motul RBF600 but recently changed to Castrol SRF when I changed to the XP12/10 pads.
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 2000atlanticgt
but recently changed to Castrol SRF when

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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by N80
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I recently found the SRF on Amazon for $58/liter and the RBF600 is usually $18/500 ml so not that much price difference at all in the big picture.
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Old Apr 25, 2014 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 2000atlanticgt
I recently found the SRF on Amazon for $58/liter and the RBF600 is usually $18/500 ml so not that much price difference at all in the big picture.
That's not bad and I'd consider the SRF at that price. However, I get the ATE Super Blue/Amber for $15 a liter and I've never had a fluid related issue....even in 45 minute sessions at CMP ( a track that is very hard on brakes). But it certainly isn't in the same class as the SRF.
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 04:54 PM
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i've been running xp10 front and rear w/ stock brembos on rs3 tires. the brake pads were a huge upgrade.

recently started running on NT01 tires, still with the xp10 front and rear, also with great results. but i wonder if I would be better running xp12 up front now? thoughts?
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hndumafia
i've been running xp10 front and rear w/ stock brembos on rs3 tires. the brake pads were a huge upgrade.

recently started running on NT01 tires, still with the xp10 front and rear, also with great results. but i wonder if I would be better running xp12 up front now? thoughts?
If you are not having any issues with the XP10 then I would not worry about changing.
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000atlanticgt
If you are not having any issues with the XP10 then I would not worry about changing.
well i am at the end of the pad life on my current set of xp10s, so I wonder if the xp12 front will give additional braking power without over-powering the tires and causing too much additional wear to the rotors (centric blanks).
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by hndumafia
well i am at the end of the pad life on my current set of xp10s, so I wonder if the xp12 front will give additional braking power without over-powering the tires and causing too much additional wear to the rotors (centric blanks).
If you can lock up the tires consistently or engage ABS over and over with no significant fade, then you have enough pad. More aggressive pads won't help if you already at the limit of the tires.
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 05:10 AM
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Consider the RP2 pads compound...they last forever and stop about like the XP12...and about for not much more $$$. They are a great option for the Front... Front Brembo XP12 = $220 vrs Front Brembo RP2 - $238


Note: I ran RP2 in both Front and Rear while using BFG R1 tires on a Spec Z.
However I am not a hard on brakes or tires. "smooth is fast"

Carbotech™ RP2™

The RP2™ compound was engineered for endurance racing based on our highly successful XP™ Series formulations. RP2™ has strong initial bite, a little less modulation than our XP12™, but still maintains the rotor friendliness of our XP™ series compounds. RP2™ has great fade resistance with a temperature range of 250°F to 1450°F+ (121°C to 787°C). RP2™ is as rotor friendly as our XP™ series compounds. Carbotech™ RP2™ is NOT recommended for use as a daily driven street pad due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise.
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