DIY Assemble your own Big Brake Kits: Caliper Brackets (Custom)
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Originally Posted by kbiz
I've been out of town, but I've been getting some more pricing info so it'll be closer to time for part selection.
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Originally Posted by kbiz
Inconel would be a better choice than SS but both could work. Inconel typically has a higher ultimate strength than Aluminum alloys... the only issue is availability. I don't know if there are any special requirements or processes required for machining Inconel and that's something that would need to be looked into.
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Since there's kind of a lull in the action, I thought it would be good to get some input on the brake comparison.
Should I use the stock pads or Hawk HPS? I'm not sure what kind of pads we will have for the Wilwoods, but it might be hard to control for pad variability. Any input?
My plan was to to some classic 60-0 braking runs and also to do some 120-60 or 100-60 runs. I think the 100-60 is a better test of the brakes for racing applications because this is a typical braking scenario on the track. I'm very interested in these times and distances, because I always find it hard to believe that big brake upgrade rarely reduces stopping distances. I think the BBK is not in its efficiency range at slower speeds and that's why distances are not reduced much. My prediction is that the 120-60 or 100-60 will be reduced substanially with a BBK over stock. This is sort of based on a seat of the pants dyno from my on track experience. Any other tests you want to see?
I've got a non-contact IR thermometer to get rotor temps and a datalogger which has a physcial wheel speed sensor so the data I get is quite accurate. But I was wondering what temp I should bring the rotors up to before beginning the tests.
I got my data logger installed last night and did some inpromptu practice runs to get used to the system.
Three 60-0 mph runs yielded: 108 ,113, 123 feet.
Should I use the stock pads or Hawk HPS? I'm not sure what kind of pads we will have for the Wilwoods, but it might be hard to control for pad variability. Any input?
My plan was to to some classic 60-0 braking runs and also to do some 120-60 or 100-60 runs. I think the 100-60 is a better test of the brakes for racing applications because this is a typical braking scenario on the track. I'm very interested in these times and distances, because I always find it hard to believe that big brake upgrade rarely reduces stopping distances. I think the BBK is not in its efficiency range at slower speeds and that's why distances are not reduced much. My prediction is that the 120-60 or 100-60 will be reduced substanially with a BBK over stock. This is sort of based on a seat of the pants dyno from my on track experience. Any other tests you want to see?
I've got a non-contact IR thermometer to get rotor temps and a datalogger which has a physcial wheel speed sensor so the data I get is quite accurate. But I was wondering what temp I should bring the rotors up to before beginning the tests.
I got my data logger installed last night and did some inpromptu practice runs to get used to the system.
Three 60-0 mph runs yielded: 108 ,113, 123 feet.
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Originally Posted by zillinois
Since there's kind of a lull in the action, I thought it would be good to get some input on the brake comparison.
Should I use the stock pads or Hawk HPS? I'm not sure what kind of pads we will have for the Wilwoods, but it might be hard to control for pad variability. Any input?
My plan was to to some classic 60-0 braking runs and also to do some 120-60 or 100-60 runs. I think the 100-60 is a better test of the brakes for racing applications because this is a typical braking scenario on the track. I'm very interested in these times and distances, because I always find it hard to believe that big brake upgrade rarely reduces stopping distances. I think the BBK is not in its efficiency range at slower speeds and that's why distances are not reduced much. My prediction is that the 120-60 or 100-60 will be reduced substanially with a BBK over stock. This is sort of based on a seat of the pants dyno from my on track experience. Any other tests you want to see?
I've got a non-contact IR thermometer to get rotor temps and a datalogger which has a physcial wheel speed sensor so the data I get is quite accurate. But I was wondering what temp I should bring the rotors up to before beginning the tests.
I got my data logger installed last night and did some inpromptu practice runs to get used to the system.
Three 60-0 mph runs yielded: 108 ,113, 123 feet.
Should I use the stock pads or Hawk HPS? I'm not sure what kind of pads we will have for the Wilwoods, but it might be hard to control for pad variability. Any input?
My plan was to to some classic 60-0 braking runs and also to do some 120-60 or 100-60 runs. I think the 100-60 is a better test of the brakes for racing applications because this is a typical braking scenario on the track. I'm very interested in these times and distances, because I always find it hard to believe that big brake upgrade rarely reduces stopping distances. I think the BBK is not in its efficiency range at slower speeds and that's why distances are not reduced much. My prediction is that the 120-60 or 100-60 will be reduced substanially with a BBK over stock. This is sort of based on a seat of the pants dyno from my on track experience. Any other tests you want to see?
I've got a non-contact IR thermometer to get rotor temps and a datalogger which has a physcial wheel speed sensor so the data I get is quite accurate. But I was wondering what temp I should bring the rotors up to before beginning the tests.
I got my data logger installed last night and did some inpromptu practice runs to get used to the system.
Three 60-0 mph runs yielded: 108 ,113, 123 feet.
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For the people on this thread who were bashing me when I was trying to help, do you remember back on page 2, when I wrote the following:
Well, it's been a month now with no response or updates. As I said before, when you're buying a big brake kit, you're buying a lot more than the components. You're buying customer support, experience, and confidence that you will be covered in the future with parts and help should something go wrong. Put a price tag on all of these items, and I think you'll find that our $1995 front BBK is quite reasonable.
Some other pitfalls:
Will spare parts be available if you need them?
Will you have lots of pad and rotor choices?
Will you have tech support and service if you run into a problem?
Will you have piece-of-mind knowing that the product has been tested under all scenarios?
Will spare parts be available if you need them?
Will you have lots of pad and rotor choices?
Will you have tech support and service if you run into a problem?
Will you have piece-of-mind knowing that the product has been tested under all scenarios?
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Originally Posted by J Ritt
For the people on this thread who were bashing me when I was trying to help, do you remember back on page 2, when I wrote the following:
Well, it's been a month now with no response or updates. As I said before, when you're buying a big brake kit, you're buying a lot more than the components. You're buying customer support, experience, and confidence that you will be covered in the future with parts and help should something go wrong. Put a price tag on all of these items, and I think you'll find that our $1995 front BBK is quite reasonable.
Well, it's been a month now with no response or updates. As I said before, when you're buying a big brake kit, you're buying a lot more than the components. You're buying customer support, experience, and confidence that you will be covered in the future with parts and help should something go wrong. Put a price tag on all of these items, and I think you'll find that our $1995 front BBK is quite reasonable.
You wanna say something? How about you try saying something constructive and leave your sales pitch to another thread.
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Originally Posted by J Ritt
For the people on this thread who were bashing me when I was trying to help, do you remember back on page 2, when I wrote the following:
Well, it's been a month now with no response or updates. As I said before, when you're buying a big brake kit, you're buying a lot more than the components. You're buying customer support, experience, and confidence that you will be covered in the future with parts and help should something go wrong. Put a price tag on all of these items, and I think you'll find that our $1995 front BBK is quite reasonable.
Well, it's been a month now with no response or updates. As I said before, when you're buying a big brake kit, you're buying a lot more than the components. You're buying customer support, experience, and confidence that you will be covered in the future with parts and help should something go wrong. Put a price tag on all of these items, and I think you'll find that our $1995 front BBK is quite reasonable.
I've always wondered if you were honestly dedicated to this community, or were just covering for it... thanks for clearing it up, you are a fine example of the lowest breed of salesman.
Now please leave
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Originally Posted by Nano
WTF are you talking about? Assembled kits are used by every breed of car enthusiast worlwide. From amateur club racers to highest levels of professional racing. There are companies that have been catering to these enthusiasts for DECADES and stand behind their products 110%. Even if the project should fail(for whatever reason), it is a great idea, and the intention is noble. Great way to misslead people with aimless drama...
I've always wondered if you were honestly dedicated to this community, or were just covering for it... thanks for clearing it up, you are a fine example of the lowest breed of salesman.
Now please leave
I've always wondered if you were honestly dedicated to this community, or were just covering for it... thanks for clearing it up, you are a fine example of the lowest breed of salesman.
Now please leave