SJTrackZ....any info from the alignment shop yet???

 

those arms look very nice on your car. they compliment the paint as well. i would have gone with these instead of my 350 EVO arms had they not be welded. the 350 EVO arms have no welds to worry about breaking, not that i would ever drive my car hard enough to even come close to tolerances such as those.

john

 

So far these arms seem like a huge comtender as long as the adj is more then .5 . Anyone running JIC coilovers with these arms? I need something that will bring a 1-3/4 drop back to life.

 

i suggest going with the best, 350Evo Suspension package. aside from having A LOT of adjustability, they have no welds. this means you have a much stronger arm with less weak points. look at the kinetix, jic, stillen, or cusco- ALL HAVE WELD POINT (all have multiple weak points).

john

 

What's your deal with welds? The arms will bend before they break anyway unless you drop it off a cliff or something, but then you have much bigger problems. So chill with the weld phobia

 

From what it looks like if you have anything lower than an a .8" drop these arms will not get you back into spec, there were 3 people on g35driver that have these arms and were not able to get the car back into spec.

 

if the arms bend before they break the welds, then those would be some cheap arms. a weld in any medal is the weak point. i can asure you, although you many never actually drive to the point of breakage, the 350 evo arms will hold up way longer than cusco, kintex, stillen, ect.

i wouldnt really call it a phobia, as im not afraid of the welds. there are actually two reasons why i like the 350evo arms over any other manufacturer- they look incredibly nice without all those welds (very smooth), and having that extra safety of not having welds gives me the assurance that in the event that these arms are stressed to the point that other arms would brake at their weld point, these wont. you get what you pay for obviously.

btw: even the stock nissan arms have no welds. they are one peice. welding is cheaper than machining a peice of metal to make an arm.

john

 

ahhh thaT sucks. just another reason to buy the 350evo arms.


john

 

I've never heard of one of these particular arms breaking, so not really sure why it's even an issue. Also, the arms aren't even visible, so whats the use of having a pretty part on there anyway? Just doesn't make any sense to me I guess.

Although I admit they are a nice piece, I think the EVO arms are way overpriced and not a very good value for what they do.

 

I have the 350evos and would recommend them for the metal bushings. It really makes the steering much more crisp.

 

althought u never "heard" of these arms breaking, they do break. the ones with welds will undoubtly break before the ones without.

also, wouldn;t u rather have a peice that relied on supporting your car and THOUSANDS OF LBS be made from one soild peice of aluminum than have a whole bunch of sticks glued together- i mean metal tubes welded together?

not to metion: (what daveh said ^)

john

 

uhmmmm......rollcages are "welded pieces of metal"...and they do just fine.

 

damit you ****. undoubtly true my friend but how thick are those tubes in comparison to..... the arms? you get my drift, hopefully, both the cage and the arms are going to be exposed to similar external forces and thus raises a question as to why they aren't equal in size. hmm...


john

 

i wonder about the esprit adjustability they are still affordable.

 

Sorry about not getting back to everyone about the arms.

It looks like these arms will give you back about 1 degree of camber. If you did anymore, you would probably be hitting the metal part of the inner fenderwell. Even with my Nismo S-Tune, my passenger side was at -1.8. I was able to bring it back to -1.0. All arms will have a limit to as far as how much camber it can correct. With my Kinetix arms, I was able to go -0.5. BUT, the heim joint on the passenger side of my car rubbed the inner fenderwell. (not the plastic piece)

I liked the 350EVO arms as well. Maybe if I never got the Kinetix arms in the first place, I would have just got the EVO arms. The price of the Cusco arms was awesome. The quality was great and I'm very pleased with them.

 

If you need more adjustability I would think you could drill out the slots that the adjustment bolts go in to on the arms. If you are hitting the inner fenderwell, I would think a little hammer action could fix that.

 

There is a place for all the different makes and models of aftermarket parts. We stride to have the highest quality parts available. Our arms are higher in price because the manufacturing cost and the materials used are higher. We have done a lot of R&D on our upper control arms and there was a lot of thought that went into them. We went through different styles of control arms in the begining (very similar to other options on the market) but had found theat they couldnt handle the loads and stress they went through.
This is why we went with machined piece and spent time developing it before we released it for resale.
The arms may cost a little more up front....but its pennies compaired to a body shop repair bill if one were to let go. As I have stated time and time before....there was a definite reason we switched to a machined part.
Cheers
BJ@350EVO.com

 

"damit you ****. undoubtly true my friend but how thick are those tubes in comparison to..... the arms? you get my drift, hopefully, both the cage and the arms are going to be exposed to similar external forces and thus raises a question as to why they aren't equal in size. hmm...

A cage and an a arm are not subject to anywhere near the same forces. That being said, have a look under your car and see how many welded pieces there are."

Well first off, who I sleep with has nothing to do with this conversation

A welded a arm is plenty strong. Now, I am by no means saying the one piece CNC'd piece is not very nice...quite the opposite, it is indeed a very trick piece. BJ and his crew make some very nice items, and for those that want them, they are available. I personally have no use for such a piece, and I think many are in the same boat, due to the cost. If money were no object, or if I were building an out and out race car, perhaps I'd have a different opinion. Cusco is a long standing top tier manufacturing company in Japan, with their own share of racing pedigree, and every single item they sell is rigorously tested before it is released to the public. This testing includes track use as well as street use, as well as stress testing for fatigue, etc. Saying that the a-arm is supporting the weight of the car as "evidence" that a welded a arm is somhow inferior shows you need to do some reading on the subject (that is NOT meant to be offinsive, it's just hard to show sarcasm via a type writted post)

 

The Cusco arms come with these adjustments:
+4mm (+.5)
-4mm (-.5)
-8mm (-1)
-12mm (-1.5)

I modified mine to have +8mm (+1degree) I am lowered with Eibachs, but have not had an alignment as of yet..

It IS possible to get more adjustment from these arms.. Cuscos are the way to go for those on a budget and some skill in the garage...