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Old 11-21-2005 | 06:07 PM
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Any advise ?

Springs any of the ff:
- Hotchkis
- RSR
- Tein

Coilover would be TEIN Basic Coilovers
Old 11-21-2005 | 06:09 PM
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took me months to decide the same as you are now but i end up doing like this:

Eibach spring with Koni Damper. The drop pretty good and no more bouncing issue. It is my daily drive and i'm happy with it.
Old 11-21-2005 | 07:42 PM
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ask yourself, what extra do you think you will get out of coilovers? do you want adjustable height? are you going to corner weight? are you going to customize your spring rates? basics don't have adjustable damping so that doesn't apply here

if you answer no to all of those, then a properly chosen spring/damper combo will provide you with what you need. however, the springs you have listed have very different spring rates

on the other hand, if you don't know how to choose your springs to achieve your goals, then perhaps a "pre-matched" system like the basic will eliminate your need to decide.

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Old 11-22-2005 | 08:12 AM
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Basics can work with differing spring rates, but only + or - 56lbs. And frankly reading between the lines on many Basic review's, I'd side towards a -56lbs rate change only.
Old 11-23-2005 | 09:38 PM
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ask yourself, what extra do you think you will get out of coilovers? do you want adjustable height? are you going to corner weight? are you going to customize your spring rates?

best response, if you say no to those, go with springs. unless you want to go lower than springs will let you, go with coilovers.
Old 11-23-2005 | 09:49 PM
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Don't plan on lowering the car too much.
0.6 is what I'm looking at.

I think i'll eliminate the coilovers and just change with the Tokico D Spec adjustable shocks with RS*R springs
Old 11-23-2005 | 09:50 PM
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I have the same dilemma, wanting to go RS*R springs with some shocks, most likely tokico d spec, but then would like the ride height adjustiblity. Tein Basics, but they arent good? So my friend says go full dampers...wtf? $1500-1800 just for looks, no thanks.
Old 11-24-2005 | 01:35 AM
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I love the ride and feeling of my Eibach pro-set with Tokico D spec's
Old 11-24-2005 | 06:00 AM
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i'd like to lower my mine by like 1.2 what the eibach kit drops, im not looking for a hard core suspension can anyone tell me how the ride is and should i worry about shocks?
whats the drop on tein basic coilover?
thx
Old 11-24-2005 | 07:42 AM
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I've been battling this for months now. Same exact question. I currently have B&G springs and while the ride height looks killer I just can't deal with the lack of suspension travel and riding on bumpstops anymore. Especially as I keep trying to make my car more track ready. A good set of coilover costs around $1500-2100 EASILY. As an alternative I have been looking at the following setup:

RSR Ti2000 springs .6 drop front and rear and 6.3 and 7.1 kg/mm spring rates
Tokico D Spec shocks

I spoke with Tokico and the shocks have suffcient travel to run as low as 1.2 inches so they are perfect with these springs. I also have been looking at Swift springs 20 25 mm drop and spring rates that are comparable. I may opt for these. Total cost

Switft springs: $350
Tokico D specs: $570
Total cost $920
Old 11-24-2005 | 07:46 AM
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get a set of used coilovers...
Old 11-24-2005 | 06:16 PM
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I JUST put on my RS-R Ti springs and Koni yellow's and I am VERY happy with them. The ride feels much more controlled over the stock suspension and it is very smooth and not rough at all.

The car stays very flat and the rotation is great and the stock "slop" I felt close to the limit is gone. Will be doing a track event soon and some auto-x's to figure out exactly how to tune it.

If Mia remembers I had a Spec V with home made shortened koni's that were DIY coilovers and it was pretty stiff so I wanted to take a break from that stuff and go with some basic off the shelf parts and I'm happy with the result.
Old 11-28-2005 | 04:52 PM
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definately go with coilovers....even if you have to pay more. i've done this both ways and the coilovers are better imo even though they might cost a little more. i am very happy with my hks ls+....very comfortable on the street and great for performance too. they are very easy to adjust (takes less than a minute for all four), 30 way adjustable, and great quality.

alot will depend on your budget and your needs but in the long run you will be happier with the coilovers. you can adjust height, damping, and the coilover is by design a better setup. not saying that a good shock/spring combo wouldn't work as well...but you know for sure that the spring/damper on the coilovers were engineered to work together.

be careful in your selection...some coilovers are noisy and very stiff. i have not encountered either of those issues with the hks ls+ and i have had mine for almost 2 years now.
Old 11-29-2005 | 04:20 PM
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Please correct me if I'm wrong.

if going with coilovers even with the Tein Basic Damper. Camber and a arms have to be replaced?
Old 11-29-2005 | 05:01 PM
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ah no. Camber arms are needed if you want more camber or you are so low you need to rid of camber.
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I went through the same dilema. I have tried about 5 combinations of springs/shocks/coilovers so far on my car trying to find the best combo for street driving, auto-x and track days..

The best I have used so far is Tokico D-Spec shocks with Espelir Active GT springs. Great street ride and still good on the track. Low enough for a good look but not too low. (By the way, Eibachs are good on the street, no good on the track.)
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