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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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EBC Red Stuff Pads are not really track pads they are high horse power street pads. Yellow stuff pads are for the track. Green stuff pads are for lower horse power and everyday family vehicles.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by USN HM 350Z
EBC Red Stuff Pads are not really track pads they are high horse power street pads. Yellow stuff pads are for the track. Green stuff pads are for lower horse power and everyday family vehicles.
yep...
reds are street pads with track compounds aka better stopping power and stronger lasting
yellows need to get warmed up b4 it works
and greens... are for beaters
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by jvanquish
Check the rears... good brake balance is crucial for good stopping power!
Doesn't the Electronic Brake Force Distribution takes care of that? or it doesnt really balances the brakes??

I hope it does. Thats one of the things I thought it was cool about the Z
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by buho62
Doesn't the Electronic Brake Force Distribution takes care of that? or it doesnt really balances the brakes??

I hope it does. Thats one of the things I thought it was cool about the Z
your rear then have to work harder...
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 07:04 AM
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those rotors are gonna be $$$ i strongly urge u to get a second opinion, and if u do replace the rotors do not go with oem. performance nissan should have a nice selection of aftermarket rotors on their website, check it out.

most likely new pads and rotors will cost u over 500. pads will be about 100, rotors i have no idea but can easily see them being over 100 each. best of luck.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by PoWeRtRiP
those rotors are gonna be $$$ i strongly urge u to get a second opinion, and if u do replace the rotors do not go with oem. performance nissan should have a nice selection of aftermarket rotors on their website, check it out.

most likely new pads and rotors will cost u over 500. pads will be about 100, rotors i have no idea but can easily see them being over 100 each. best of luck.
Check tirerack... they usually have brake set up for cars and they ship pretty fast
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by USN HM 350Z
EBC are great pads
I'll second that !!!!
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Ztalker
if you don't go to track and the Z is your daily driver, i would think twice before i replace the stock pads with high performance racing pads cuz they are meant to operate at higher temperatures at the track and you wouldn't appreciate the increased stopping distance on the streets.....believe me, been there done that....
Stock pads are #terrible
You need to NOT buy them again
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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+1 on the stoptech stage 2 kit. I got the same story when I had my brakes done at 22k miles, but I had only bought the hawk pads b/c I didn't think my rotors where going to need to be replaced so I had to just buy stock replacements. the stoptech kit will give you new hawk hps pads, slotted rotors, steel lines and motul fluids I believe. talk to jason (he's a member on here) from performance nissan, he'll hook you up.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 02:05 PM
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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i'd rather have hawk red pads or project mu's rather than hawks
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 02:19 PM
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A BBK kit such as the stoptechs would be overkill if you don't go to the track. There are better than stock brake pads out there, but since you were surprised with the rotor with stock pads, I'd be weary of an aggressive pad which should increase rotor wear.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by heezyo2o
A BBK kit such as the stoptechs would be overkill if you don't go to the track. There are better than stock brake pads out there, but since you were surprised with the rotor with stock pads, I'd be weary of an aggressive pad which should increase rotor wear.
Brakes save lives...
Get the most powerful brake so you can both take more risks and avoid more risks

I should be a stoptech brake salesman
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jvanquish
i'd rather have hawk red pads or project mu's rather than hawks
For street use, I just know of the hps and HP+, what the hell are the reds.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jvanquish
Brakes save lives...
Get the most powerful brake so you can both take more risks and avoid more risks

I should be a stoptech brake salesman
For street use, it doesn't make a difference. If you're in it for looks, that's one thing, but for actual stopping distances, the difference is minimal.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 02:30 PM
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Have you seen this test http://www.zeckhausen.com/Testing_Brakes.htm

Those "terrible" stock pads and rotors do quite well. Again, for daily driving and the street, a bbk kit is a waste.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by heezyo2o
For street use, I just know of the hps and HP+, what the hell are the reds.
EBC redstuff
(more performance oriented than greenstuff but still streetable)

Stopping power with the stoptech bbk is noticable and a couple feet could mean the ditch or a "phew"
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jvanquish
EBC redstuff
(more performance oriented than greenstuff but still streetable)

Stopping power with the stoptech bbk is noticable and a couple feet could mean the ditch or a "phew"
Check your post, you mentioned "hawk reds."

There may be better brake feel with a bbk, but the argument about stopping power is mute.

I really don't know of an instance where one would face brake fade on the street. I've done numerous canyons runs on the non-brembo pads and rotors as well as the OEM brembos and even then I did not experience fade.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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yes BUT say you get 3 feet less from using BBK compared with regular brake ..
then say you got into an accident and if you had BBK you would of avoided it
now you lost 5000 dollars on a Z instead of spent 2000 dollars on the brake kit and avoided the accident over all
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jvanquish
yes BUT say you get 3 feet less from using BBK compared with regular brake ..
then say you got into an accident and if you had BBK you would of avoided it
now you lost 5000 dollars on a Z instead of spent 2000 dollars on the brake kit and avoided the accident over all
That argument is flawed because if you have to apply maximum braking/emergency braking from 80 or 100mph, then you're in trouble to begin with. Even then, ABS will kick in which should allow you to swerve to avoid danger. If such a situation were to arise, reaction time would be much more important than what type of brakes you have.

If you were to try similar braking techniques in a turn, it would be game over even with VDC, BBK or not.
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