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Old 08-17-2006, 07:44 PM
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Question Master Cylinder?

Do I need to change the master when doing the OEM Brembo upgrade? Do I need any bolts or brackets that my non Brembo equiped car would be missing? So far, I have calipers, pads, front rotors, and stainless lines. Please help me fill in the missing blanks, so I can get this done.
Old 08-17-2006, 09:31 PM
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rear caliper bolts
Old 08-18-2006, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Soundeffects
rear caliper bolts
OK, I've got the caliper bolts for the front and rear, and I've ordered the hard lines to connect the calipers to the stainles lines. I have the little black brackets that bolt to the rear calipers to hold the lines. Do I need anything else? My new garage has double doors, so getting the car up is a pain in the ***. Maybe I could get some kind of wheel dollies so I could push the car into the center. I'd like to try and get all the parts together before I start.

So does the master cylinder need to be changed? And can anyone recomend a GOOD aftermarket rear rotor?

Thanks.
Old 08-19-2006, 04:45 PM
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Probably Stop Tech on the rear rotors ----I am almost positive u will have to remaster ---If someone cant give u facts and figures, Call Nissan and get a PN# for your year car for brembo and standard M/C ---Also Performance Nissan Im sure would give u a good answer. Anytime u increase CCs of fluid in one location u have to compensate in another location. Thats the law----Of Hydraulics
Old 08-20-2006, 06:06 AM
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You dont need master cylinder upgrade, its plug and play, just install brembos and lines, bleed them and you are done.
Old 08-20-2006, 08:24 PM
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Thanks guys. Is there an aftermarket rebuild kit for the Brembo's? The ones I have could use a paint job.
Old 08-21-2006, 03:50 PM
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yes $40 from performance nissan frnts
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Cant beat that ---Last kit I bought for Pantera fronts was like 150.00 apiece---There is a special assembly lube made for brake rebuilds that will help u a lot --Master cyls, calipers etc. Its slippery and compatable with fluids---I buy mine at Napa Auto Parts
Old 08-22-2006, 11:00 AM
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Can anyone point me to a complete diy for a brembo caliper upgrade including how to bleed the brakes.
Old 08-22-2006, 01:37 PM
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We have lots of aftermarket rotors to use with your Brembo's. If you have any questions on anything, just let me know. Rotors
Old 08-24-2006, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Soundeffects
yes $40 from performance nissan frnts
Yeah, I checked with Nissan and the fronts were about $50 CND. The rears however were $90!! Is there a cheaper solution for the rear? Or a way to get them without having to pay the dealer middle man upcharge?
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Well --I look at it this way ----for 140.00 I have a brand new set of calipers that I will prob never have to touch again
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Yeah, your right. I can be kind of a cheap bastard some times.
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Is the master of the track model bigger?
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Iv been lead to believe that the MC is the same for all
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Why do they have different part numbers?
Old 12-04-2006, 06:30 AM
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If the master cylinders are all the same and the pedal force is defined by law, then the TOTAL caliper piston volume must be the same.

In theory regardless of number of pistons assumming same diameter of rotors the clamping force must be the same.

Something usually missed in the discussion of whether 2,4,6 piston calipers are better.

If you don't need to change master cylinder and the rotors are the same diameter no change in clamping forces, if anything just a more uniform distribution of the clamping forces with more pistons.

Members may not realize that 2 piston floating calipers act forcewise almost [95%] like 4 piston fixed calipers.

When you turn off ABS every oem brake system will lock the tires [at least up to 100 mph] if sufficient [less than 100 pounds] pedal pressure is applied.
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Originally Posted by Q45tech
If the master cylinders are all the same and the pedal force is defined by law, then the TOTAL caliper piston volume must be the same.

In theory regardless of number of pistons assumming same diameter of rotors the clamping force must be the same.

Something usually missed in the discussion of whether 2,4,6 piston calipers are better.

If you don't need to change master cylinder and the rotors are the same diameter no change in clamping forces, if anything just a more uniform distribution of the clamping forces with more pistons.

Members may not realize that 2 piston floating calipers act forcewise almost [95%] like 4 piston fixed calipers.

When you turn off ABS every oem brake system will lock the tires [at least up to 100 mph] if sufficient [less than 100 pounds] pedal pressure is applied.
Knowing hydraulics, I believed the cyls were different and stated that at one time ---it may have been in this thread??? I was corrected by a reliable source at the time
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my understanding was that the 2004 master cylinder for the track model was a dual master cylinder, while the others and the 2003 track model were single
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So is there a 350z master cylinder that will fit the base 03 model that will perform better with a firmer pedal feel? Anybody know?


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