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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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The brakes on my car are pretty good, how much better are the brembos really, would i be just as good or better if i were to do slotted rotors, racing pads, and lines, with some good fluid, any sugestions or feedback would be great.
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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Unless you track the car or make repeat stops from speed with no time for cooling the difference is negligable. Bigger brakes are mainly about heat rejection, street use for most people won't get near the fade point of the standard brakes.
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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Check out this great article on brakes...

http://www.zeckhausen.com/testing_brakes.htm

As you can see, the stopping difference between regular (Performance) and Brembos is negligible.

As jungle pointed out, heat disappation is the advantage to a BBK.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 02:50 AM
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Brake feel is also better on the Brembo.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 07:47 AM
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For less than a Track model, you can buy a Base or Enthusiast and fit your own wheels and brakes.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by i8acobra
For less than a Track model, you can buy a Base or Enthusiast and fit your own wheels and brakes.
The idea of buying a Base model and modding it to Track level has been debated many times, plenty people will disagree with me. But, for the fun of it, let’s have a look. Obviously, if someone can buy stuff below MSRP, numbers will change.

It’s now common knowledge that the weak point of the non-Brembo brake system, when used on the track, are the rear brakes. People eat through rear pads within on HPDE event. This would point to a 4 wheel BBK to make sure the Base Z is “trackable”.

A Stop Tech 13” 4 wheels kit starts around 4,200$

Then we need an LSD. The Track model’s viscous unit is not the best, but it’s assisted by the ABLS system. So an other 1,000$ for a NISMO unit plus around 500$ for the install.

So right of the bat, that’s 5,700$ to be pretty much on par to a Track model.

We haven’t looked at wheels yet, but many people will change wheels on any trim level.

Base MSRP is 27,650 $ plus 5,700 that’s 33,350$
Track MSRP is 34,550$ Barely more than one grand difference.

IMO, if you’re building a full race car the Base trim is the one to get. If the car will be a daily driver/week-end lapper, things aren’t as simple.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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do you think fluid lines, slotted rotors, and pads would take care of some of the fade, i stop from 140-150 alot, but not usualy over and over, THe kit im refering to can be found on jcs speed and its made by stoptech, its slotted rotors, pads, fluid, and stainless lines.

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Originally Posted by Drift_corners
do you think fluid lines, stoptech slotted rotors, and pads would take care of some of the fade, i stop from 140-150 alot, but not usualy over and over
If it’s more brake torque that you want, a simple pad upgrade will do the job nicely.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 01:12 PM
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I want to be able to run autocross, and mabey one or two track days a year
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Drift_corners
I want to be able to run autocross, and mabey one or two track days a year
Change your brake fluid with some Dot 5.1 fluid for the track days and that’s it.

Make sure you have plenty of pad material front and rear for these events, and have fun.

You don’t need anything more.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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I'd recommend an actual race pad (Cobalt or Carbotech) for HPDEs. I've experienced unexpected fade on the track and it'll get your adrenaline going, but it's not fun.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by i8acobra
For less than a Track model, you can buy a Base or Enthusiast and fit your own wheels and brakes.
Yea you can but If your car isnt only for track, most people would agree haveing TCs VDC xenons and cruise control is a plus.
I say get a performance and upgrde the brakes.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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Don't forget that you have to pay Nissan to take all the other luxuries if you want a proper track car No bose, no subwoofer, etc etc

I have a track model, but I bought it to track it. The VDC INCREASES my autox lap times by about a second. Not sure what the diff is doing as I have not raced a non track version.

If I could do it all over I would have gotten the cheapest base model I could find and add the goodies myself I do love the Brembos though. Raced this Sunday for four hours and the brakes where as good on the first lap as the last!!
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