Some new SPL stuff sneak peak
11-19-2006, 09:36 AM
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So with this setup, if you already have true coilovers in the rear, the billet arm will allow you to remove the spring off your rear coilovers and place the spring on the billet arm away from the strut? If this is correct, how would you adjust the ride height in the rear with Stance coilovers? I am wondering because the Stance coilovers adjust at the base of the strut mount, so by looking at the billet arms and the Stances, there would be two places that would need adjustment.
11-19-2006, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by axolotol81
So with this setup, if you already have true coilovers in the rear, the billet arm will allow you to remove the spring off your rear coilovers and place the spring on the billet arm away from the strut? If this is correct, how would you adjust the ride height in the rear with Stance coilovers? I am wondering because the Stance coilovers adjust at the base of the strut mount, so by looking at the billet arms and the Stances, there would be two places that would need adjustment.
The height adjustment is straightforward, you adjust the spring perch to set your ride height. Then you adjust the lower brackets on the shocks to alter the length of the shock assembly, which sets the stroke/droop/travel of the shock. It is actually simpler than adjusting the coilover because now when you adjust the length of the shock you do not affect ride height AND stroke at the same time.
11-19-2006, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by USN HM 350Z
How far away from production are you on these?
and not to get way off topic here, but when are the front stabilizer links going to be released? I am holding off buying these until I can get front and rear.
and not to get way off topic here, but when are the front stabilizer links going to be released? I am holding off buying these until I can get front and rear.
As for the endlinks, the current 350Z rear endlinks are actually a carry-over from our 300ZX front endlinks. To go one better than the competition, I have decided to design all new endlinks front and rear for the 350Z using the new series of QA1 high-misalignment rod ends, which are extremely strong and will allow for more angular misalignment than ball joints. I would say probably a Feb time frame for the new F&R endlinks.
11-19-2006, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 03Z33
This has to be the stupidest idea EVER! 
and fugly 
and fugly https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-suspension/219823-for-those-with-cusco-a-arms.html
What exactly did I do to you to deserve this type of blatant bashing and false information?
11-19-2006, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by USN HM 350Z
Funny how he shuts his mouth after he is called out on his ignorance though. oh well, you make quality products that speak for themselves, so let the haters do just that.
I know I have offended a few people before, in this business its not always possible to please everyone, but I don't recall any interaction with this fellow.
11-19-2006, 02:55 PM
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It's nothing personal, but when you release crappy product you're bound to get called out sometimes. I'm just looking out for my fellow Z owners who may have not dealt with your crap in past...
I guess I should give you credit for being half way original this time? At least it's not like your other lines where you copy others just with cheaper quality. To bad your idea just doesn't work well.
I guess I should give you credit for being half way original this time? At least it's not like your other lines where you copy others just with cheaper quality. To bad your idea just doesn't work well.
11-19-2006, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by USN HM 350Z
Funny how he shuts his mouth after he is called out on his ignorance though. oh well, you make quality products that speak for themselves, so let the haters do just that.
There's nothing wrong with supporting your sponsor, or the "cool" bandwagon shop of the week, but wait and see, Z owners will get burned just like Z32 and 240SX owners have in past!
11-19-2006, 03:04 PM
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I agree that quality products will speak for themselves, and there is a reason why these products are getting called out. You should know better than anyone after getting burned with your last car There's nothing wrong with supporting your sponsor, or the "cool" bandwagon shop of the week, but wait and see, Z owners will get burned just like Z32 and 240SX owners have in past!
There's nothing wrong with supporting your sponsor, or the "cool" bandwagon shop of the week, but wait and see, Z owners will get burned just like Z32 and 240SX owners have in past!
11-19-2006, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 03Z33
It's nothing personal, but when you release crappy product you're bound to get called out sometimes. I'm just looking out for my fellow Z owners who may have not dealt with your crap in past...
I guess I should give you credit for being half way original this time? At least it's not like your other lines where you copy others just with cheaper quality. To bad your idea just doesn't work well.
I guess I should give you credit for being half way original this time? At least it's not like your other lines where you copy others just with cheaper quality. To bad your idea just doesn't work well.
We never copied anyone. Yes alot of our 240SX suspension line are rebadged NAMS (Nagisa) products but NAMS has no objections to us rebadging their products and it is pretty much open knowledge in that community. In fact we state that we do purchase some products from other shops on the website.
Did we actually have an interaction in the past or is this all third hand gossip and guesses? All this sounds alot like the rhectoric from Alex@BattleVersion. If you wish to state something factual, I can respond accordingly. There is nothing I can do if your objections are based on gossip and rumours.
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11-19-2006, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by USN HM 350Z
Getting burned with my last car? My Xterra? You don't even know what the hell your talking about. Guess it's time to test the ignore feature of this site.
What crappy product?
What do you consider that? I think that's the ugliest design I've seen yet for the Z (yes even uglier than the Kinetix crap!). Not only are you throwing away a well designed forged aluminum arm, but you're using cheap rod ends, shoddy welds, and adding weight to a critical suspension arm all just to make a quick buck and tell people "your tires won't wear out as quick"
What copy?
All of your suspension arms are direct copies of brand names, just done in cheaper materials, with cheap ends, and broken up welds. I've seen these arms break within days of installing them on cars!
And how exactly does my idea not work well?
11-19-2006, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 03Z33
What do you consider that? I think that's the ugliest design I've seen yet for the Z (yes even uglier than the Kinetix crap!). Not only are you throwing away a well designed forged aluminum arm, but you're using cheap rod ends, shoddy welds, and adding weight to a critical suspension arm all just to make a quick buck and tell people "your tires won't wear out as quick"
The stock arm is lighter, as you point out. I will also bet that it's stronger. Why bother making such an expensive replacement if you can't improve on it? How many of these do you really think you're going to sell for $800 + out of cnc'd aluminum? There are already proven solutions for adjusting rear toe on the Z. There is no need to change the stock arm, and if you're willing to change it, there are lighter higher quality options for under $300 that won't brake after the first track event, or rust and clunk after the first rainy day. There is nothing wrong with running a true coilover in the rear, most will argue it's a superior design. The only people complaining are the ones that haven't tried it!
The stock arm is lighter, as you point out. I will also bet that it's stronger. Why bother making such an expensive replacement if you can't improve on it? How many of these do you really think you're going to sell for $800 + out of cnc'd aluminum? There are already proven solutions for adjusting rear toe on the Z. There is no need to change the stock arm, and if you're willing to change it, there are lighter higher quality options for under $300 that won't brake after the first track event, or rust and clunk after the first rainy day. There is nothing wrong with running a true coilover in the rear, most will argue it's a superior design. The only people complaining are the ones that haven't tried it!
Please provide some examples of this "common" issue of broken SPL suspension pieces, links to threads on any forums is fine. We wouldn't have our reputation in the 240SX or 300ZX community if this was true. I don't know if you are grouping or confusing us with some other vendors.
Here are several 240SX and 300ZX forums for those who want to research our reputation:
www.zilvia.net
www.freshalloy.com
www.ziptied.com
www.twinturbo.net
11-19-2006, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 03Z33
It's nothing personal, but when you release crappy product you're bound to get called out sometimes. I'm just looking out for my fellow Z owners who may have not dealt with your crap in past...
I guess I should give you credit for being half way original this time? At least it's not like your other lines where you copy others just with cheaper quality. To bad your idea just doesn't work well.
I guess I should give you credit for being half way original this time? At least it's not like your other lines where you copy others just with cheaper quality. To bad your idea just doesn't work well.
I know Kuah personally, I know where all the suspension products are made (and I have watched them being made), and I know where all the rod ends and hardware are sourced, and I can tell you that your “facts” are just plain wrong. QA1 rod ends are considered to be some of the best in the industry, so I really don't know where you come off calling them cheap.
As for your comment on "fugly" I would tend to disagree. Tig welded chromoly tubing doesn't exactly scream "crappy" or "ugly" to me. Regardless of what you may think of their aesthetic quality, you go right ahead and buy suspension products based on how pretty you think they are. I'll continue to buy performance products based on their quality and functionality-especially when my life is at stake.
If you don't have anything useful and factual to contribute here, please go back in your hole. Troll. It is obvious you have some hidden agenda and you're just making yourself look foolish.
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11-19-2006, 06:29 PM
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I can assure you I have no hidden agenda, nor am I a troll. I've been active on the forum since before the car hit the states and I've had my share of experiences with multiple vendors parts. My reasons for posting are to share knowledge and oppinions with fellow members. You aren't a forum sponsor, and I realize you're just sharing some "prototype" pictures. If you aren't open to negative feedback, you may re-consider doing so in future.
Rather than getting into a tit for tat argument about why I feel your products don't meet the quality and design standards I expect from a vendor I will respectfully leave your thread and wish you all a good day
Rather than getting into a tit for tat argument about why I feel your products don't meet the quality and design standards I expect from a vendor I will respectfully leave your thread and wish you all a good day
11-20-2006, 07:06 AM
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ok well, if you're so sure about the shoddy quality of these products breaking and rusting, can you show us some proof?
Get us some links to forum posts or articles about what you're talking about because without facts or data, you're just creating negative vibe on here that we do not need on this forum.
So far, you are the only one that has ever spoken badly about SPL products and yes, I have been on the boards long enough to know as well. I may not post much, but I do watch quite a bit.
Get us some links to forum posts or articles about what you're talking about because without facts or data, you're just creating negative vibe on here that we do not need on this forum.
So far, you are the only one that has ever spoken badly about SPL products and yes, I have been on the boards long enough to know as well. I may not post much, but I do watch quite a bit.
11-20-2006, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 03Z33
I can assure you I have no hidden agenda, nor am I a troll. I've been active on the forum since before the car hit the states and I've had my share of experiences with multiple vendors parts. My reasons for posting are to share knowledge and oppinions with fellow members. You aren't a forum sponsor, and I realize you're just sharing some "prototype" pictures. If you aren't open to negative feedback, you may re-consider doing so in future.