droideka

My StopTech kit will arrive by Saturday. It comes with the Axxis ULTIMATE pads, but I was wondering what I should run at the track. Hawk HP+ w/HPS on the stock rears? Carbotech Panther XP front and rear? Any suggestions.

Thanks!

droideka

This one from Mike at Gruppe-S! 13.1" w/ST-40 calipers.



My car is/will be ANTI-BLING and this suits me just fine. Plus, more surface area without the drilling. Love the BLACK calipers.

Audito350Z

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On my Audi A4 with the 332x32 Stoptech kit I always used the Stoptech "Club Race" pad. Very good track pad. Talk to Matt at Stoptech and he can probably get you some. I used to order mine from Bob at Stratmosphere (an Audi tuner).

Other than that... Carbotech Panther XP would do nicely; Porterfield R4-S are good... lots of good choices.

PeteH

WashUJon

I'm glad someone on this site finally mentioned Porterfield R4-S pads. I firmly believe these are the best pads for your buck. I bought some along with cryo treated rotors from Porterfield for my VR-4 and I was in love with them...

Michael-Dallas

Hey Brad,

You gonna put them STOPTECH stickers on your 350? If you're not, I think I can find a place for them in the SE-R. MaD SeNTRa powah would get even maddah!

Michael.

oso98

NICE STOP TECHS!

CAN YOU PUT THOSE ON A TOURING W/ OUT BREMBOS?

EnthuZ

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Brad, that is the EXACT kit I installed a couple weeks ago. The Axis pads work fine on the street. BUT, after talking with Matt at CarboTech, I ordered Panther Plus 1106 for the front & rear for my track day at Blackhawk Farms. They should have been shipped today.

all_bark

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I already did. (back in december!)
see....

they squeak like hell though and I do not like it.

I have the axis pads also with black calipers by the way!

D'oh

Have you tried putting the anti-sqeak goo between the pads and shims? That might help hold everything together better and stop the noise.

I've haven't had a squeaking problem so I haven't needed to try it, but it might be worth a shot. It's probably $5.00 for a large bottle.

-D'oh!

all_bark

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No, I have not even thought about it even though I should. I am sure that would help, but dam, sometimes I'd rather just drive...

J Ritt

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Droid,
Congrats on the Stoptechs...good choice! The great thing about choosing that kit is the support you'll receive from them when you need it.

I used the Port. R4 and R4S on my Type R. Personally, I would go for separate street and track pads. It's really not that hard to change the pads for the track. Most of the track pads need too much heat in them to work at their optimum level on the street, while the street pads tend to burn up rather quickly under massive track attack.

Audito350Z

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I helped install a used set up Stoptechs on a friend's Audi A4. The previous owner had used that goo on the pads. The residue is impssible to remove from the pistons and the pads and makes it nearly impossible to remove/replace the pads. It'll work great until you need to change the pads... then you won't be able to remove them.

You HAVE to properly bed in the pads when you first install them. If you have squeeky Stoptechs, then you may not have bedded in the pads properly. You also have to bed in when you change from street pads to track pads and back again. Stoptech has very explicit bedding-in instructions on their website and in the box when they ship you the brakes.

Do yourself a favor... bed them in correctly and don't use the goo...


Hope that helps.

PeteH

Sevs2k

WHats the cost for a set like the one in the picture?

Thanks

MaddMatt

Should be arriving very soon if you don't have them already...

all_bark

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The brakes were installed by stoptech themselves and the first set of pads were bedded by the tech. The second set was installed at my dealer and they were bedded by me. Both times, losts of smoke and smell when the hard stops were done (repeatable about 10 x's as per stoptech) both were quiet for a while (week or two) and then the squeaking started.

Is not REALLY bad but it is there when stopping at lights and such. I used to have these metal shims that were coated with a rubberized material that went inbetween my pads and pistons on my 300 and never heard the squeaks again.

Where can you get them? For Stoptech (axxis) pads?

THATS what I need!

EnthuZ

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The pads arrived today, thanks for the speedy service. I'll be doing a trial fit in a couple days.

MAN the rear pads are SMALL!

A question on your bedding in procedure........"allow the brakes to cool down completely by parking the car for 30 minutes." It seems to me that a hot spot will develope on the rotor if I do that. Wouldn't cruising, without using the brakes for, say 10 minutes, more evenly cool things?

D'oh

Yeah, I was wondering about that. The service manual says to use PBC or silicone based grease, which helps prevent the shims from chattering during light stops. I also didn't want to use the goo, because it seemed to get pretty tacky when dry (I did a small test). I couldn't find PBC grease for sale anywhere and silicone base greases are pretty hard to find as well, unless you go to a porno shop. Anyhow, I'm guessing either grease would help, and be much easier to clean off than the goo. When I replaced my OEM pads, there was a bunch of grease on them, so I reused as much as I could. I now have a very slight sqeak when I'm stopping in parking lots, but that's about it.

Sorry to derail the post...

I would like to get stoptechs eventually, but money seems to be pretty tight. Anyhow, have fun with the new brakes!

-D'oh!

MaddMatt

The 4-6 stops described in our procedure *may* not be sufficient to bed our pads with those BIG kits. You need to get the pads fairly warm to bed our pads and those big kits are designed NOT to get very warm. You may need to bump that up to 6-8 stops with that kit. Perhaps a few more. The key is to get the pads to "green fade". You'll feel it when it happens because the car won't be slowing down very much and you'll smell the brakes when you stop (so do this somewhere away from traffic!).

I usually drive around a few mile before parking.

Yes they are. Another reason they wear out so fast. They're no bigger than my Sentra rear pads, but at least you guys have 140 more hp and 700 more pounds to stop....

failsafe

Hey droidekaus- I just picked up the last set from Gruppe-S- Just curious what kinf of fluid you are planning to run. Thx.

DZeckhausen

For the StopTech brakes you should follow these bedding instructions. I have found them to work very well: http://www.zeckhausen.com/bedding_in_brakes.htm

I have a really nice loop that takes me through a large reservation with very little traffic and few officers of the law. I do a series of 60-10mph slowdowns until I experience the onset of green fade and then I cruise for 5 - 10 minutes, usually without touching the brakes at all. If the brakes don't feel very strong (for a new kit) or if there is still some squealing, I take it around again and repeat the process.

An alternative street pad to the Axxis Ultimate is the Axxis Deluxe Plus which runs quieter and with much less dust. What little dust it does produce is tan in color. At $54/set, it will not break the bank and it plays well with StopTech's Club Race pads. It's also much easier on your rotors than the Ultimates. With these large rotors on the relatively light 350Z, there's no problem staying within the pad's operating temperature range on the street and even the autocross. As with the Ultimate pads, you should forget about running them on the track unless it's your first event and you are a novice at motorsports, not running R-compound tires and have a stock suspension.