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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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I tried to search the Brembo topic but what a waste, only about 1.5million topics out there.

just looking to see if anyone has installed one of these kits on their car. Looking at the 13"rotor 4pot kit if anyone has any pros/cons on them.

I should add that yes I do track my car and yes it is my DD. I run 17" stock rims at the track on a 05 performance.

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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Billhyco
I tried to search the Brembo topic but what a waste, only about 1.5million topics out there.

just looking to see if anyone has installed one of these kits on their car. Looking at the 13"rotor 4pot kit if anyone has any pros/cons on them.

I should add that yes I do track my car and yes it is my DD. I run 17" stock rims at the track on a 05 performance.

Thanks for the help.
I have the same exact kit in red. After over 2 years and almost 20,000 miles, the original brake pad is still running strong. It also fits with the 2003 17" wheels (drove like that for a couple of month before my Racingharts were delivered)
If I had to find a con, you'll have a hard time upgrading the rear brakes. Brembo makes no aftermarket kit for so the Z's rear, and you'll have a very hard time buying the rear OEM Brembo set, and have to go through a hastle of changing their color.
Having said that, I am very happy with the purchase, but if I knew then what I know now, I'd probably do the Stoptech's 4-pot front, 2 pot rear BBK.
Hope this helps. If there is anything in particular that you wish to know, ask, but do keep in mind that I don't even remember how the stock brakes felt as opposed to my Brembo GT.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Oleg
I'd probably do the Stoptech's 4-pot front, 2 pot rear BBK.
Curious, why not the 6pot for the front?

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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by LaoSiFu
Curious, why not the 6pot for the front?

~Robert
I don't know... Kind of too late now.
If there is not much $$ difference, I guess I'd go with 6-pot (if it even comes with a 13" rotor, I wish to be able to drive on my stock 17's if I damage one of my aftermarket wheels and have to wait for a replacement). But for my intents and purposes the 4-pot are more then adequate.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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We only offer our 6 piston kit as a 355mm option so it wont work with the vast majority of 17" wheels.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by StopTech
We only offer our 6 piston kit as a 355mm option so it wont work with the vast majority of 17" wheels.
That about answers it...
I still have a few questions for you:

Your 2-pot rear kit, would it be a good match to your 4-pot 13" front kit?

What are the specs on your 13" 4-pot front kit?

Would your 2-pot rear kit fit the OEM 2003 17" wheels?

I am still hoping to find a rear BBK that would match my front Brembos...
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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Both of our rear kits have the same torque output as stock, so yes, they will be a good match for any of our front kits as well as any other kit that is designed to be used with the stock rear brakes. I'm fairly certain that our 2 piston rear brakes will clear the stock 17's as well, but the wheel fitment templates on our websites should always be checked to make sure.

According to the information on the Brembo website, the calipers used on the 332mm 350Z 4 piston kit have 15% greater torque output than the kit that we offer. Just for comparison, the torque differential between a set of mundane street pads and full out race pads is about 5-7% so those Brembos are creating a very front-biased condition. Our rear kit would not improve on that condition by offering any more rear brake toruqe but it also wouldn't make it any worse by offering less rear brake torque. The main benefit would be the improved rear heat capacity, pad selection and pedal feel due to the much stiffer calipers and smaller pistons used in the calipers.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by StopTech
Both of our rear kits have the same torque output as stock, so yes, they will be a good match for any of our front kits as well as any other kit that is designed to be used with the stock rear brakes. I'm fairly certain that our 2 piston rear brakes will clear the stock 17's as well, but the wheel fitment templates on our websites should always be checked to make sure.

According to the information on the Brembo website, the calipers used on the 332mm 350Z 4 piston kit have 15% greater torque output than the kit that we offer. Just for comparison, the torque differential between a set of mundane street pads and full out race pads is about 5-7% so those Brembos are creating a very front-biased condition. Our rear kit would not improve on that condition by offering any more rear brake toruqe but it also wouldn't make it any worse by offering less rear brake torque. The main benefit would be the improved rear heat capacity, pad selection and pedal feel due to the much stiffer calipers and smaller pistons used in the calipers.

Well, I'll be damned....
What about your 4-pot rear, would it be a better choice for me?
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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Well, I'll be damned....
What about your 4-pot rear, would it be a better choice for me?
It will only add more heat capacity, he just told you the torque output is the same for both of their rear kits. Either way, you have to deal with the front biased brake setup.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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Duh, that's what happens when you type prior to reading...
Funny, I don't feel like any kind of bias, my current setup has gotten me out of trouble on many an occasion...
Either way, looks like a Stoptech 2-pot for my Z's rear once my current rear pads wear out...
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Originally Posted by Billhyco
I tried to search the Brembo topic but what a waste, only about 1.5million topics out there.

just looking to see if anyone has installed one of these kits on their car. Looking at the 13"rotor 4pot kit if anyone has any pros/cons on them.

I should add that yes I do track my car and yes it is my DD. I run 17" stock rims at the track on a 05 performance.

Thanks for the help.

i run the 14" brembo GT setup on my car. The 14" setup was designed around the oem brembo rears while the 13" setup was designed around the non brembo rears. If you plan on sticking with the 17" wheels, the 13" setup will fit your car perfectly.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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The OEM rear Brembos and the standard rear brakes have the same torque outputs so theres no way for the kits to be designed for one or the other. This is how we are able to offer the same front and rear combinations for track and non-track models.

According to the Brembo website, the same calipers are used on the 13" and 14" front kits which will make the 14" even more front biased than the 13" option. Some basic calculations are showing a 19% increase in front torque output with the 14" kit. Neither kit has been optimized or fine tuned for the 350Z, they've just taken their standard F50 calipers which are a "closest fit" and called it a day, just like they do with a lot of their kits.

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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 04:26 PM
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so if I go with Brembo 4pot 13" front kit. Ran a Hawk Race only pad on the rear, upgraded rotors and of course ss lines. How much front bias difference are we talking about?

also, is a 350Z Track model Master Cylinder a direct swap with a non track master cylinder?
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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I am getting the front brembo gt kit this week. Already checked and they can't give me the 6 piston for the front because they just don't have the bracket for a 350z. Brembo never made one and I talked to my distributor and they just told me to go with the 4 piston 14 inch rotor. The reason they told me was they needed me to have a 12 offset or less in order to fit 6 piston BBK on a 350z they assume but not 100% sure.
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Originally Posted by StopTech
The OEM rear Brembos and the standard rear brakes have the same torque outputs so theres no way for the kits to be designed for one or the other. This is how we are able to offer the same front and rear combinations for track and non-track models.

According to the Brembo website, the same calipers are used on the 13" and 14" front kits which will make the 14" even more front biased than the 13" option. Some basic calculations are showing a 19% increase in front torque output with the 14" kit. Neither kit has been optimized or fine tuned for the 350Z, they've just taken their standard F50 calipers which are a "closest fit" and called it a day, just like they do with a lot of their kits.

Say what you will, I am running the 14" kit on my car. with the non brembo rears, the car did seem unbalanced under hard braking. I then upgraded to the oem rear brembos; I wasn't expecting any difference, but the difference was night and day
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Billhyco
so if I go with Brembo 4pot 13" front kit. Ran a Hawk Race only pad on the rear, upgraded rotors and of course ss lines. How much front bias difference are we talking about?

also, is a 350Z Track model Master Cylinder a direct swap with a non track master cylinder?
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Originally Posted by Billhyco
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Regarding your master cylinder question, yes, direct swap, i did mine awhile back. Also, the thing was that i had my brembo kit installed with the stock brake master cylinder, pedel feel was bad. After i installed the brembo one, it got so much better. It's hard to explain but i guess this is why they use to diff one as well. The brembos pump out a lot of fluids.

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Originally Posted by SuperBlack350z
Regarding your master cylinder question, yes, direct swap, i did mine awhile back. Also, the thing was that i had my brembo kit installed with the stock brake master cylinder, pedel feel was bad. After i installed the brembo one, it got so much better. It's hard to explain but i guess this is why they use to diff one as well. The brembos pump out a lot of fluids.

OK, now I wish I never clicked on this thread to begin with. I have a 13" Brembo GT on front. So now I need the track model's master cilinder to take full advantage of it?

And I am still lost as to what rear BBK would compliment my Brembos best...
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Originally Posted by Oleg
OK, now I wish I never clicked on this thread to begin with. I have a 13" Brembo GT on front. So now I need the track model's master cilinder to take full advantage of it?

And I am still lost as to what rear BBK would compliment my Brembos best...
sorry, this was on the OEM brembos but i think it would make it feel better. Did you notice any diff pedal feel between the oem and your brembo gt brakes?
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperBlack350z
sorry, this was on the OEM brembos but i think it would make it feel better. Did you notice any diff pedal feel between the oem and your brembo gt brakes?
It's been so long ago since the upgrade, but I don't recall a drastic change in pedal, but it did become firmer...
I am just curious if there is any potential left to tap as far as my brake setup is concerned
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