Last decision ( Hotchkis or GF210 )
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Originally Posted by Marino Z
I am thinking of getting these springs too but I am trying to figure out if Ill be ok without camber kits. I wouldn't mind running little neg camber but not too much... tough decisions..
Hotchkis or Hotchkis TVS, or Tein S-tech or RS*R( not sure )will be fine.
but depend on cars..every 350z different
so but most of 350z get back into spec with those brands.
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Originally Posted by xhooniex83
Guys!!! you know what?!?!!?
i've planned to drop since few month ago, ( when i was in NY)
and i saved money, when i was about get springs i had to move to MIchigan..
so i put that money on moving...
and i got here a month ago, and i save save save again!!!
and i was about to order tommorow ( thurs) buT!! Shooot...
i saw my rear tires....it all went out...it was really worst...i didn't notice that..cuz inside of tires were out so bad...
i couldn't see it...
i have to get rear tires First...so i guess buying a springs will be move to 1 or 2 weeks later.... T.T
i bother too many people cuz of this...and still haven't done it yet....
......... i need hug....
i've planned to drop since few month ago, ( when i was in NY)
and i saved money, when i was about get springs i had to move to MIchigan..
so i put that money on moving...
and i got here a month ago, and i save save save again!!!
and i was about to order tommorow ( thurs) buT!! Shooot...
i saw my rear tires....it all went out...it was really worst...i didn't notice that..cuz inside of tires were out so bad...
i couldn't see it...
i have to get rear tires First...so i guess buying a springs will be move to 1 or 2 weeks later.... T.T
i bother too many people cuz of this...and still haven't done it yet....
......... i need hug....
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Originally Posted by BornSlippyZ
It's ok plus the oem tires a great for dry traction but not on wear..trust me I have bought 2 sets of the bridgestones before I bought the Kumho's
i was gonna get a rims after this winter,
but my rear tires couldn't stand that long....
front is okay, but just a rear, so imma just get a okay one,
i think it was 120? from discount tire...so
i rather get a used tires if i can get touch with local Z members...
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Originally Posted by xhooniex83
i was gonna get a rims after this winter,
but my rear tires couldn't stand that long....
front is okay, but just a rear, so imma just get a okay one,
i think it was 120? from discount tire...so
i rather get a used tires if i can get touch with local Z members...
but my rear tires couldn't stand that long....
front is okay, but just a rear, so imma just get a okay one,
i think it was 120? from discount tire...so
i rather get a used tires if i can get touch with local Z members...
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Originally Posted by mr. sparco
I got Hotchkis and didn't think it was low enough and wanted to switch out to GF210s but got a kit and now it's better. I'd go with the GF210s if looks is more important. The hotchkis will perform a bit better with the stock shocks vs the GF on stockers.
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Originally Posted by BornSlippyZ
Ah! thats right you actually live in a place that experiences real WINTER! be carefull in the Ice/snow...I do not have the skills to drive in the snow or Ice,,,good luck on the purchase.
Yea,,,profile says in NY...i used to but..now im Michigan...
More snow..More Ice............probably garage keep for snow time and take my co-worker's car to work....
I don't have skills too...but this winter i want to try sliding~ ( ofcourse not with my Z hahaha)
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I'm going for Tanabe GF210 and SPC camber & toe set,
Now i"m searchin for some site has good price. ^^ yey
Z1auto.com has good price with SPC camber & toe set.
Now i"m searchin for some site has good price. ^^ yey
Z1auto.com has good price with SPC camber & toe set.
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how come people only get REAR CAMBER KIT??? what about front? can someone direct me to some FAQ or something that would provide me the right info PLEASE? Thanks... cause I know im going to need it and im still debating on what to get for springs... thanks!
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Originally Posted by t0m4t0
how come people only get REAR CAMBER KIT??? what about front? can someone direct me to some FAQ or something that would provide me the right info PLEASE? Thanks... cause I know im going to need it and im still debating on what to get for springs... thanks!
When you lower a Z with a subtle drop (e.g. hotchkis) it is rare you will need any sort of camber kit. A little bit more of an aggressive drop (1") you may run into camber issues, mostly in the rear. Not a big deal! Rear camber kits can be found cheap. Megan Racing has camber arms for $150ish.
When you get into the realm of a +1" drop, your camber in the rear will rarely-->never be able to get back into factory with the stock equipment...you will need camber arms...maybe even toe bolts to fix that issue. AND, from my research, you will need new front adjustable control arms to get the front camber back into spec because the factory arms are non adjustable. Many of the arms available allow you to dial in negative camber in the front // \\ , but since you already have too much of that since you dropped your car, you need ones that will give you more positive camber adjustability \\ // to get it back into spec. I have heard people modifying the Cusco arms to get them to go more positive, but the only ones that I personally know of that are great quality and adjustable enough out of the box are the 350evo arms = $$$
So it's not just as simple as buying $200 springs and dropping your car. Also too, if you go too low, the stock shocks/struts just aren't going to hold up. If you just want springs with little problems...go with a .75" - 1" drop at most.
I lowered my e36 BMW about 2" and only had to get rear camber arms. However, the lowering springs did my stock shocks in (that were old anyway), so I got Bilstein Sports. All said and done my suspension on that car (though it needed replacement) cost $1000 (springs, shocks, arms). It all started with a dream to drive a slammed ride ...and then $$! At least with the BMW the front arms were adjustable enough from the factory to handle a 2" drop....yeah, i don't get it either.
My Z? Not the case. Hotchkis for now...then slam her when I graduate and get some real money.
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thanks for the info... I kinda guessed a little bit from the reading i've been doing latelly... I really wanted to go with TANABE GF210 which is 1" front and 1.2" back... but rethinking now I might go with EIBACH PRO 1" front/back. or just get TANABE GF210 and rear camber? cause i dont really care about the drop I want the car to ride confortable and more stiff on corners... on the top of that I'm getting new tires soon...
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Originally Posted by t0m4t0
lol.... and that again... only happens with rear tires?
Tein Springs - they make 2 kinds:
H-Techs
http://www.intensepower.com/tehsp35.html
S-Techs
http://www.intensepower.com/tessp35.html
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I just ordered Today From Z1auto.com
Tanabe GF210 & SPC Camber/toe set,
if you getting a rear equipment to fix, you need toe too, not only camber.
so it's better go with SPC ( it comes with set)
and Z1auto has good price, i search everywhere, but Z1auto had good price.
Tanabe GF210 & SPC Camber/toe set,
if you getting a rear equipment to fix, you need toe too, not only camber.
so it's better go with SPC ( it comes with set)
and Z1auto has good price, i search everywhere, but Z1auto had good price.
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Originally Posted by t0m4t0
thanks for the info... I kinda guessed a little bit from the reading i've been doing latelly... I really wanted to go with TANABE GF210 which is 1" front and 1.2" back... but rethinking now I might go with EIBACH PRO 1" front/back. or just get TANABE GF210 and rear camber? cause i dont really care about the drop I want the car to ride confortable and more stiff on corners... on the top of that I'm getting new tires soon...
you might need camber for eibach's too, depends on cars tho
HOTCHKIS TVS - seem like that's what you looking for. ( not require camber/toe but depends on cars) it comes with springs and sway bar.
or just get coilover
you still get drop from both way. and better confortable then just springs
But, i rather get perfect drop first and save, and i will look for get more perfor on handling. I love to feel one by one, Plus I don't like combination.
It's Your choice, and Your 350Z,
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Originally Posted by t0m4t0
what are the specs for tein springs?
I think..
Tein H-tech < Tein S-tech < Hotchkis or RS*R (?)
If you are looking for just little drop then try look for those 3 companys, i heard some good thing
about those brand. ^^ hope it help.
Last edited by Chef-J; 10-31-2007 at 08:57 PM.
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you guys are the best... I'm leaning toward the tein s-tech, first cause its a well known brand and its not that big of a drop... and I'll match that with SPC rear camber kit/toe/whatever comes with it...
but of course when I get that installed I will need a shop to allign it right?
thanks everyone...
but of course when I get that installed I will need a shop to allign it right?
thanks everyone...
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Originally Posted by t0m4t0
but of course when I get that installed I will need a shop to allign it right?
thanks everyone...
thanks everyone...
if the Z is not your daily driver, like mine isn't, wait a few hundred miles or so then go get it done.
Good luck!