Need to replace my brembo brakes soon, should I go aftermarket?
I have an 06 grand touring z which I will be replacing the stock brembos on, and I am thinking that since it will cost me a little over a grand to get the replacement brembo's, that I might as well just install aftermarket brakes instead. That and I am planning on installing a turbo kit which will bring me up to the 400HP range, and better brakes may be beneficial when I am pushing higher performance. So basically would I better off with aftermarket, and if so which brakes would suit me best?
Stoptech, AP, Project Mu, Endless...the list goes on...the question is, how much money do you plan to spend? for a new BBK, i'd say you'll be looking into the 2-3K range...that's a lot of money. and the stock brembos are awesome brakes! why even change them out?
Originally Posted by JJ350
I have an 06 grand touring z which I will be replacing the stock brembos on, and I am thinking that since it will cost me a little over a grand to get the replacement brembo's, that I might as well just install aftermarket brakes instead. That and I am planning on installing a turbo kit which will bring me up to the 400HP range, and better brakes may be beneficial when I am pushing higher performance. So basically would I better off with aftermarket, and if so which brakes would suit me best?
Originally Posted by OffsetZ33
you say it will cost over a grand to get replacement brembos - what does this mean? Why do you need to replace them? Are they damaged?
So basically would I see improved braking, or will the brembo's still be fine? my price rance should be up to 2-3k
Originally Posted by Nexx
uhh... most people replace their pads and rotors... not the calipers.. 
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Originally Posted by JJ350
I have an 06 grand touring z which I will be replacing the stock brembos on, and I am thinking that since it will cost me a little over a grand to get the replacement brembo's, that I might as well just install aftermarket brakes instead. That and I am planning on installing a turbo kit which will bring me up to the 400HP range, and better brakes may be beneficial when I am pushing higher performance. So basically would I better off with aftermarket, and if so which brakes would suit me best?
If you do any type of Road Racing, I would recommend StopTech over all of them.
Originally Posted by davidv
Not sure how horsepower and brakes are related. If you have to stop a car at 100 MPH, it doesn't matter if it got to 100 MPH with 250 or 500 HP. Its still 100 MPH.
Then you get Boost, and now you are doing 130mph and need to slow down for it. Yes you do need better brakes for something like this. But Brembos are way more than enough for the type of driving he will put it through. Just need pads, rotors, fluid and lines.
wow, he is worried about possibly 1K (not sure where he is shopping) to do his brake pads but wants to spend 2-3 k on a BBK, and tha tprice woudl only cover the fronts. the rears will cost another 2-3 k for a grand totak of close to 4-6 k.
just replace the pads and you will notice a big difference. get some good aftermarket ones (just search around here and see what others are running for an example or go with a stoptech stage 1 kit, you can find it on the vendors sites for way less than 1K. also i suggest you get a few books on automobiles. particularly ones that deal with how a car works and basic maintenance.
just replace the pads and you will notice a big difference. get some good aftermarket ones (just search around here and see what others are running for an example or go with a stoptech stage 1 kit, you can find it on the vendors sites for way less than 1K. also i suggest you get a few books on automobiles. particularly ones that deal with how a car works and basic maintenance.
Last edited by Z04; May 29, 2008 at 05:31 AM.
Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
Let's say you go to TWS and run with the NA car. You are on the long straight away accelerating as fast as you can. Then you slow down for the bank to enter the in field again from 100 mph.
Then you get Boost, and now you are doing 130mph and need to slow down for it. Yes you do need better brakes for something like this. But Brembos are way more than enough for the type of driving he will put it through. Just need pads, rotors, fluid and lines.
Then you get Boost, and now you are doing 130mph and need to slow down for it. Yes you do need better brakes for something like this. But Brembos are way more than enough for the type of driving he will put it through. Just need pads, rotors, fluid and lines.
That wasn't his point though. He was just saying the 100mph is 100mph regardless of the horsepower, which you really can't argue with whether it took you 10 seconds to get there or 20. Now around a track yes hp matters because you have limited space to achieve max speeds.
Unless you are tracking the car hard (not autocrossing) then you might want to upgrade your brembo's. If your just driving around town or autocrossing then your Brembo's will be all that you will need.
The horespower/brake correlation is fairly obvious as the above peopel mentioned or so I thout it was. If you have a 1/2 mi straight away to accelerate your car the car with the higher horespower will achieve a higher speed and will have much more energy to dissipate when entering a turn. The car with 300 horespower may only reach 140mph whiel the car with 500hp will be able to accelerate to 185 on the same straight. Both cars have to enter the turn at the same spped. The 500 hp car has alot more speed to lose before enrtering the turn.
I was at Sebring with another member here.... I was behind him while we were braking and entering the safety pin turn and he just drove straight off the track into the runoff area. I talked to him later and he stated his pedal went to the floor and he had lost most of his braking. This was with the Brembo's and Nismo R pads. Our cars are heavy and if your going to be adding horespower and threshold braking on fast tracks your going to need a front brake upgrade from the OE Brembo's. If your not then keep the Brembo's. The rear Brembo's are up to the task of anything you can throw at them.
The horespower/brake correlation is fairly obvious as the above peopel mentioned or so I thout it was. If you have a 1/2 mi straight away to accelerate your car the car with the higher horespower will achieve a higher speed and will have much more energy to dissipate when entering a turn. The car with 300 horespower may only reach 140mph whiel the car with 500hp will be able to accelerate to 185 on the same straight. Both cars have to enter the turn at the same spped. The 500 hp car has alot more speed to lose before enrtering the turn.
I was at Sebring with another member here.... I was behind him while we were braking and entering the safety pin turn and he just drove straight off the track into the runoff area. I talked to him later and he stated his pedal went to the floor and he had lost most of his braking. This was with the Brembo's and Nismo R pads. Our cars are heavy and if your going to be adding horespower and threshold braking on fast tracks your going to need a front brake upgrade from the OE Brembo's. If your not then keep the Brembo's. The rear Brembo's are up to the task of anything you can throw at them.
Last edited by JETPILOT; May 29, 2008 at 06:20 AM.
I know several instructors running on the stock Brembos and myself included with no issues at all with heavy tracking. The Brembos do just fine. Do the upgrades I mentioned above and you are set. There is REALLY no need to upgrade to the StopTech or others unless you want the looks. Stoptechs or other brands will slow you down due to rotational weight being added.
But due to the size will have better heat resistance even though the Brembos will work just fine.
In your example, it all depends on the pads. If he had a real race pad and not the NISMO ones, he wouldn't have had that problem.
But due to the size will have better heat resistance even though the Brembos will work just fine.
In your example, it all depends on the pads. If he had a real race pad and not the NISMO ones, he wouldn't have had that problem.
Originally Posted by JETPILOT
Unless you are tracking the car hard (not autocrossing) then you might want to upgrade your brembo's. If your just driving around town or autocrossing then your Brembo's will be all that you will need.
The horespower/brake correlation is fairly obvious as the above peopel mentioned or so I thout it was. If you have a 1/2 mi straight away to accelerate your car the car with the higher horespower will achieve a higher speed and will have much more energy to dissipate when entering a turn. The car with 300 horespower may only reach 140mph whiel the car with 500hp will be able to accelerate to 185 on the same straight. Both cars have to enter the turn at the same spped. The 500 hp car has alot more speed to lose before enrtering the turn.
I was at Sebring with another member here.... I was behind him while we were braking and entering the safety pin turn and he just drove straight off the track into the runoff area. I talked to him later and he stated his pedal went to the floor and he had lost most of his braking. This was with the Brembo's and Nismo R pads. Our cars are heavy and if your going to be adding horespower and threshold braking on fast tracks your going to need a front brake upgrade from the OE Brembo's. If your not then keep the Brembo's. The rear Brembo's are up to the task of anything you can throw at them.
The horespower/brake correlation is fairly obvious as the above peopel mentioned or so I thout it was. If you have a 1/2 mi straight away to accelerate your car the car with the higher horespower will achieve a higher speed and will have much more energy to dissipate when entering a turn. The car with 300 horespower may only reach 140mph whiel the car with 500hp will be able to accelerate to 185 on the same straight. Both cars have to enter the turn at the same spped. The 500 hp car has alot more speed to lose before enrtering the turn.
I was at Sebring with another member here.... I was behind him while we were braking and entering the safety pin turn and he just drove straight off the track into the runoff area. I talked to him later and he stated his pedal went to the floor and he had lost most of his braking. This was with the Brembo's and Nismo R pads. Our cars are heavy and if your going to be adding horespower and threshold braking on fast tracks your going to need a front brake upgrade from the OE Brembo's. If your not then keep the Brembo's. The rear Brembo's are up to the task of anything you can throw at them.
If this was a pad issue his pedal would have been hard with no braking. His pedal was soft with no braking. That's a brake fluid boil. He was on fresh fluid. Don't underestimate Sebring. It is a wicked track for brakes.
Originally Posted by JETPILOT
If this was a pad issue his pedal would have been hard with no braking. His pedal was soft with no braking. That's a brake fluid boil. He was on fresh fluid. Don't underestimate Sebring. It is a wicked track for brakes.
Did he have some type of racing fluid? Did he have SS lines, did he have actual racing pads? No. All these will decrease the chances of this happening. I don't care what track you are on, the Brembos are good enough to work on any track if you have the right components. He didn't say there was any issue right now with his brakes per his posts except they are "worn".
Last edited by SOLO-350Z; May 29, 2008 at 08:36 AM.
Well... he did have ss lines, fresh MOTUL RBF600 and as I stated the NISMO R compound pads. He also had road tires. Not even R compound. I don't know why your making assumptions on my friends brake setup. Do you have a crystal ball?
When you put on R compound tires and get on a track like Sebring your going to have issues with the OEM Brembo's.
If you want to believe that it doesn't matter what track your on and that Brembo's are adequate for any situation then go right ahead. I have no idea how you drive maybe they are perfectly adequate for you.
When you put on R compound tires and get on a track like Sebring your going to have issues with the OEM Brembo's.
If you want to believe that it doesn't matter what track your on and that Brembo's are adequate for any situation then go right ahead. I have no idea how you drive maybe they are perfectly adequate for you.



