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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 07:55 AM
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I've been doing as much reading as I can in the Brakes&Suspension sections trying to learn as much as I can without my eyes bleeding from all the txt, but I still don't feel like I am much more informed on the 350z suspension.

I am getting my new wheels installed this week (Volk TE37 19x8.5f 19x10.5r +22) and I want to upgrade my suspension as well asap.

I'm not a very d.i.y. kind of guy, so I just want to buy what I need and get it put on. I am looking at Tanabe Sustec Pro-5 coilover set, along with 4-point underbrace and Nismo S-Tune sway bar set.

Is this a good setup? I will be DD my Z still, but I want a more aggressive suspension that I can use at the track. I am willing to negotiate comfort for trackability.

Any help with this and I would appreciate it. I want to do a full suspension upgrade, but need help on component selection.

After the wheels and susp is finished, the BBK will be next.

Thanks guys
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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I'd skip the underbrace - especially the Tanabe one (sits too low)

For sways, NISMO's certainly work well but are not adjustable. Better bang for the buck would be Hotchkis - you should be able to find tons of reviews, they probably are the most popular set.
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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+1 on recommendation for Hotchkis sways. Also look into a set of Endlinks...your OEM ones will make lots of noise after a cpl track days w/ the aftermarket sways.

If it was me, I'd look into GT Spec for the bracing. Our car is pretty stiff, but of course if could be stiffer.

TIRES. you mention wheels....but tires will make or break a suspension setup.
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 05:14 PM
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Well what would you guys recommend for the coilovers? The tanabe ones? I was check out cusco cause I have heard good things. And I have the hotchkis sways. I'm a total noob here in suspension.

And as far as tires im running toyo t1r's, decent track tire?

When I finally buy some rims I'm thinking of using toyo r888 despite the price just for the track. And by then I'll have much more driving experience as well.
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 07:56 PM
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might as well do a nice camber setup how much u gonna b droped cause if u wanna save your tires i might have to go with a rear camber and or front camber arm combo
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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by woogie12
Well what would you guys recommend for the coilovers? The tanabe ones? I was check out cusco cause I have heard good things. And I have the hotchkis sways. I'm a total noob here in suspension.

And as far as tires im running toyo t1r's, decent track tire?

When I finally buy some rims I'm thinking of using toyo r888 despite the price just for the track. And by then I'll have much more driving experience as well.
I personally have no experience with the aftermarket coilovers avail for the 350. so I cannot comment on that.

If your going to be tracking the car, a good aggressive alignment will help you get all that you can out of the T1R's or the R888's. Don't listen to people who speak of "saving tires with less negative camber"...sure there's a point where you can have too much neg camber, but if your driving pretty hard (track). you could run -2.0 camber w/o any issues.

I have a friend who's running -2.5 F -2.0 rear for his autox setup, its a little too much based on tire temps...He could run more like -2.0 F -1.6R and be better off, have a larger contact patch under all situations. But he's doing really well @ the races, so he refuses to change anything.

Tires are like gas, your gonna use em up...so have fun and open your wallet.

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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 07:13 AM
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T1R are not track tires whatsoever, they are street tires. That being said, there is a wide definition of "track". If you are truly looking for a tire that you can use on the street and for a couple track days a year, for your typical HPDE type events, I'd look elsewhere. Michelin PS2, Bridgestone RE01R, even the RE050A Pole Position - all would work reasonably well for those type of events. But all are also more expensive (generally speaking) than the T1R. IMHO, the Toyo is a better plain old street tire - reasonably quiet, very good in the wet, light. Soft sidewall overall so its comfortable. Does that mean you can't run a T1R on a track day? Absolutely not - plenty of people do. Just understand that you can't push a tire like that as hard, for as long as some other tires - so it's all a balancing act. As you get more competitive, you can look into R compounds, or you can consider them now as well - just realize they get lousy mileage on the street, and cost more - so all comes down to your budget. Toyo R888's (I'll be trying these next year) are a good option, as are Advan A048 (what I've run in the past). From there you get into the Hoosiers, which I have never tried on the Z, but we do run them on both our 3 series ITS class cars, and they are phenomenal - but they are not at all for the street (1 single line of tread around the whole tire!). Tires are really a personal preference type thing and budget is a major factor as costs can vary by alot.

Coilover wise, I don't have alot of experience with Tanabe on the Z. I know from asking them for customers who were interested in the past, they rarely, have the coilovers on the shelf anymore, so if a wait time is a consideration, that is something to examine as well. They certainly make nice products as a general rule of thumb, but I can't offer you a direct comparison to anything else.

Cusco Zero 2's are pretty widely used on this forum, and they've worked out well for us in the past. A nice overall blend of value/balance/streetability, with enough adjustment range in both dampening and height to make a worthy club-type track day setup.

I'd recommend working backwards to start off with - realistically establish how much track time vs street time the car/setup is going to see, and plan yourself a budget of what you are comfortable spending on day 1. From there it becomes easier to map out a plan of attack.

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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 07:15 AM
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im getting Falken FK 452's put on as we speak...along with my TE37's...can't wait. especially since the shop is directly across the street from where I'm sitting now haha
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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 10:16 AM
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Thanks a lot guys, great deal of help.
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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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Coilovers - KW V3 hands down.
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