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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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Default Springs+camber kit (w/toe) + alignment = 2deg neg toe? WTF

I lowered the car, installed a camber it, and then got it aligned...when i picked up the car it has 2deg neg toe. Im pretty sure the eibach camber kit was supposed to fix this and the shop said that the toe was maxed out...do you guys have any idea why this would happen...its so bad im about to lift the car and put it back to stock because i cannot drive it....let me know if u know of a fix or something that may have gone wrong....the drop is 1.2" and the camber kit has +/- 4 degrees same with toe ajustment....

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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 02:31 PM
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did get the camber kit with the tow bolt ?? the camber adjustment just fixes the camber. tow bolt has a templet that you have to use to drill out the hole and put the bolt in for adjustment
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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yeah it has a toe bolt...i installed that and apparently they maxed out the setting.... but it still has bad toe alignment....
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 03:13 PM
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sounds like you installed the toe bolt incorrectly or your alignment guy doesn't know how to align things.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 03:14 PM
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the toe bot isnt rocket science, tho...i used the walk through thats posted in the DIY section of the forums...
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 04:12 PM
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Post pics of where your toe bolt is , and did you properly elongate the hole?
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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Post pics of where your toe bolt is , and did you properly elongate the hole?
+1 on that. Make sure you elongate the hole where the toe bolt goes through. The new toe bolt should fix the toe easily. If you did elongate it then i suggest you go to a different alignment shop.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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do you have to install the toe bolts when install the camber kit? I'm planning to install my rear camber kit tomorrow but dont want to replace the toe bolts since I'm only have some negative cambers from lowering springs.
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 01:19 PM
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i did elongate the hole, BUT we put the toe bolt in backwards for ease of ajustmet and the fact that the stupid sway bar was in the way...im redoing it as we speak to put the bolt in the right way...hopefully that will fix it...and ill post pics too
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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well ive fixed the toe blot being backwards before i could take pics...im going to drop the car down now and hopefully see if i can manually adjust the toe...anyone have any recommendations?
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do you have to install the toe bolts when install the camber kit? I'm planning to install my rear camber kit tomorrow but dont want to replace the toe bolts since I'm only have some negative cambers from lowering springs.
yes, because as you change camber, you inherently change toe - both have to be installed
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Originally Posted by sk84volcom84
well ive fixed the toe blot being backwards before i could take pics...im going to drop the car down now and hopefully see if i can manually adjust the toe...anyone have any recommendations?

unless you have a gauge to measure things, I'd take it back to the alignment place and let them do it
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this is true, but its so bad you can tell that its not right...any idea on how to get it somewhat right?
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got a protractor?
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 04:31 PM
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no...i dont know what that is
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sk84volcom84
no...i dont know what that is
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Spork
LOL...

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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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well put it this way, its so bad you dont need one to see the angles...here are some pics...Drivers side <br></br>
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***its up on jack stands but when i drop the car its just as bad....any ideas?
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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there is no way that what you showed in the pic is 2 degrees of negative toe.

-2 toe is a **** ton. maybe 2 minutes, not degrees. 2 minutes of toe in is no biggie.




edit: i don't think its even possible to get 2 degrees of toe in even with the toe bolts.

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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 05:54 PM
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Maybe these will help...

http://www.vtr.org/maintain/diy-alignment.shtml

http://www.allpar.com/fix/alignment.html
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