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Old 02-17-2011, 03:09 PM
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hi, i'm debating whether i should swap my SPC a arm to Kinetix a arm, or add bump stops that came with spc a arm, or trim the spc a arms to make em look like kinetix. I autox so i might need caster adjustability some day.
There is SO LITTLE suspension travel that my a arms hit the wheel well over bumps on highway.(no problem autoxing though) Front is tucking the front stock tires.
Which route do you recommend? i'd like to drop the car about .5" more.
With Kinetix a arm, Is there plenty of room for suspension travel for slammed cars?

Regarding the Urethane bump stop spacers, i can stack up about 1" on each side. Will this raise the car? i don't know how the spacers work, and where they exactly need to be (pic would help).

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little help here..
Old 02-18-2011, 05:31 PM
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Welcome to the life of a slammed 350z owner.... There isn't much you can do other than clearance the shock tower. Give me a minute to find you a link.
Old 02-18-2011, 05:35 PM
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My upper ball joint smacks the shock tower on big bumps too... Sucks, but that`s life.

I`m going to do some metal work to mine this spring to get a bit more clearance.

Here is the link to look at: https://my350z.com/forum/wheels-and-...lcome-662.html
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it's not the ball joint that hits the wheel well.
i circled the area where it's hitting. I trim down little inside the wheel well but didn't really work out. I'd have to cut the wheel well as big as the a arm lol
Shouldn't the bump stop spacer solve the problem a little though? i'm pretty sure the design of the SPC is causing this since i'm not SLAMMED. It's low but not slammed.
What a arm you running?
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Old 02-18-2011, 06:46 PM
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Raise the car to a proper height that will make your car handle better!!!
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you see in the pic, there's very little sus travel. The blue thing is the paint tape that i used to wrap some sponges underneath.

This drop is as much as i can go down without having TOO much problem scraping the exhaust flanges. Why the heck did Nissan guys design the exhausts so low, at least the flanges..
My previous drop was where the fender covered the top one of the two lines on the sidewal..
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Man, so you wrapped some sponge on the control arm to cushion the rub?

And then you cut the shock tower??? haha

There's really no fix for this. I have seen custom race Z33 with shortened front spindle to solve this problem. A handful of Japanese tuners also make such product but they are rare and probably impossible to buy.
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Man, so you wrapped some sponge on the control arm to cushion the rub?

And then you cut the shock tower??? haha

There's really no fix for this. I have seen custom race Z33 with shortened front spindle to solve this problem. A handful of Japanese tuners also make such product but they are rare and probably impossible to buy.
Correct.
That's why i'm asking if bump stop spacers can fix this!!! or different design a arms
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Just saw your pictures were you circled the part where you are hitting. I thought the top of the ball joint is hitting.

Changing arms might solve it it seems.

Megan Racing

http://www.meganracing.com/product_d...d=843&catid=26

SPL

http://splparts.com/SPL_FUA_Z33.html


The SPC parts are generally bad design imo. It requires spacers to achieve extra camber adjustment, which is unheard of.
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If anyone wants to buy my spc a arm with camber shims, i could pick up Kinetix. Or trade with SPL "V2"
megan gives you only negative camber.
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Anyone know about the bump stop spacers i was asking about?
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All the spacers will do is limit the travel of the damper, so you may stop hitting but youre lossing performance. id go with kinetix, ive had them for a bit and they are great, def impossible to lose camber during hard conditions, most others will lose camber during a long track day.
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I would go w kinetic no doubt if I don't autoX. The only problem is that they don't have caster adjustability
Why doesn't anyone want to trade my spc with their spl v2 or v3 !
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spc is garbage obviously, not tryin to bash the company or you but we see first hand from you that they trashed your car. i wouldnt worry about caster when your tower is weak now structurally, sorry for the spelling. i know many o autocrossers and a very small amount of them deal with caster and are still running great times.
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^^less than an inch of hole can't really weaken the tower structure wise lol if so, it's a easy fix for fab guys.
I actually like SPC its jus that they are not for lowered cars that have trouble going over bumps.
how much were you lowered with kinetic? it gives u only +2 camber
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Originally Posted by JDMStanced
I would go w kinetic no doubt if I don't autoX. The only problem is that they don't have caster adjustability
Why doesn't anyone want to trade my spc with their spl v2 or v3 !
What does caster even matter? Its not like your car handles well anyhow!!!! Why would someone want to trade SPC crap for a quality SPL arm? Whats next, trade some crappy MB Motoring wheels for Volks?

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i dont lower it much, 1" maybe. I autocross, track and drift and i have different setups for each whats important is corner balancing rather than slamming, which it looks like youve done. dont get me wrong i think a slammed z33 is one of the best looking cars. but most z drivers tend to worry about lowering the center of gravity rather than corner balance. if you autocross hardcore then set it up correctly dont slam it thats why you are bottoming out so bad 100%.
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This is why your having problems!!
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
What does caster even matter? Its not like your car handles well anyhow!!!! Why would someone want to trade SPC crap for a quality SPL arm? Whats next, trade some crappy MB Motoring wheels for Volks?
Eggsactly


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