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Old 06-25-2011, 09:33 AM
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Hi guys,

After much research, I am pretty much set on getting the Bilstein B16 PSS10 kit from Z1 Auto.

I have a 2008 GT, with Hotchkis sway bars installed on front and back. Just wondering if there are any watch-outs before I make the purchase and install?

Pleasep pitch in with your tips and warning.

1) Do I need to get camber kits, front and back?

2) Anything I should be telling the shop prior to installation?

3) Where can I find an English instruction for the PSS10, online?
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camber kit front/rear depends on your intended height, and, what alignment specs you're starting off with

front toe is factory adjustable, front camber is not. More front camber on these cars is a good thing, however, it needs to be even. This is something you can't dial in or out with factory arms as there are no adjustments. An aftermarket kit will let you dial in the same spec left and right, even after the car is lowered.

rear camber and toe are very slightly adjustable.

Generally speaking, a drop of more than 1 inch requires a rear camber/toe kit, particularly if you're using an aggressive wheel/tire combo (low offset, wide wheels and wide tires). Over about 1.5 inches, the need for a front kit becomes more apparant as well. This is generally speaking though - these cars don't come with 1 alignment setting, there is a range that's factory acceptable. If your car came from the factory with a more nominal setting front and rear, you may be able to get away with more of a drop before buying an aftermarket set of arms. Same goes for the reverse, if your car came from the factory set on the more aggressive side of things, it will take less of a drop to necessitate new arms. No rhyme or reason behind it, only way to verify is checking your cars specs on an alignment rack.

No drama as far as install goes, it's pretty intuitive and instructions are provided
Old 06-25-2011, 10:07 AM
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I am running 245 / 265 factory tires.

I guess the best thing to do, is to get a wheel alignment once the coilovers are installed.

You also sell camber kits I assume? Which kit do you recommend to go with PSS10?
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1. Anytime you lower a car, you'll probably need camber kits, but it depends on how much you actually lower the car. For up to about an inch drop, you should be ok without camber kits but your handling may suffer.

2. Tell them that the front top mounts/plates are reused with the PSS10s and to not forget to give you all the adjustment wrenches and what not.

3. Once you actually get the part and compare to the stock parts, you won't really need instructions. Loosen everything that hinders you from getting to the stock parts that are to be replaced and once you get to it, reverse the process.
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
1. Anytime you lower a car, you'll probably need camber kits, but it depends on how much you actually lower the car. For up to about an inch drop, you should be ok without camber kits but your handling may suffer.

2. Tell them that the front top mounts/plates are reused with the PSS10s and to not forget to give you all the adjustment wrenches and what not.

3. Once you actually get the part and compare to the stock parts, you won't really need instructions. Loosen everything that hinders you from getting to the stock parts that are to be replaced and once you get to it, reverse the process.

I am planning on a 1" drop, but will do an alignment for sure post install.

My understanding is that the PSS10 kit can be adjusted by *****, without using any wrenches and such.

Right, Adam?
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Bump for Adam.. He'll take care of you.
Yeah, he responds pretty fast by email.
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The adjustment ***** are to change your rebound while the wrenches are to adjust your height/spring perches.
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
The adjustment ***** are to change your rebound while the wrenches are to adjust your height/spring perches.
I see.

So I use the wrenches to adjust ride height (which won't be very often, since the car is a DD).

And then use the ***** to adjust rebound (how bounch the car gets).

Correct?
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Adam,

Which brand of camber kit do you recommend to go with this coilover?
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2 more questions:

#1 Are the springs on the strut already or do I need to put them on with a spring compressor?

#2 Will the package comes with full English manual for PSS10 (not PSS9)?
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Originally Posted by glacier



#2 Will the package comes with full English manual for PSS10 (not PSS9)?
no spanish only sorry
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Any idea where I can find English manual?
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Originally Posted by glacier
2 more questions:

#1 Are the springs on the strut already or do I need to put them on with a spring compressor?

#2 Will the package comes with full English manual for PSS10 (not PSS9)?
you don't need a spring compressor

the install for a PSS9 and 10 is exactly the same - it includes a diagram to show how everything goes together. They are direct replacements for stock, no fabrication, or modifying of anything is required

for camber kits, I'd suggest starting with a rear kit, you can add a front down the road if the need arises. I'd suggest the Eibach rear camber/toe kit ($166 for the pair), as the most cost effective way to gain full control over the rear alignment. It's inexpensive, very durable and well made, easy to adjust and used by tons and tons of people over the years
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I see. Thanks for the input Adam.

Seeing that I don't intend to adjust rebound setting for DD VS track and etc, is it necessary to go with PSS10, or can I get away with PSS? Besides the ability to adjust, are they made differently?

I have a limited budget. If I could get away with PSS, I will probably get the Eibach camber kit, and some other small items from you in 1 combined shipping.
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That's a choice only you can make. We stopped offering the standard PSS altogether due to lack of demand and the fact that it's not priced significantly lower than the PSS10.
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Your site lists PSS for $1399, I guess you no longer carry this.

What is the "default" or "stock" lowering distance PSS10 on front and back without doing any adjustments?
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We stopped carrying them correct. Ive never measured them at their default setting. The purpose of an adjustable coilover is to set it where you want it, since there is no out of the box setting. You set it where you desire it
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I noticed eibach does not have a front camber kit. If I do need a front camber kit later, would it be better to get a rear kit now that also has a corresponding front kit?

I also have sway bars installed. Do you think it's necessary to get end links. So far i haven't had any issues as I am using softer settings.


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