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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 01:35 PM
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I received my Powered By Max coilovers yesterday and upon unpacking/inspecting them, a couple of things caught my eye.

The bearing in the middle of the upper pillow ball mount is off centre on one of the fronts and as such the whole mount is off centre. The suspect coilover/mount is on the left in all of the photos.

It also appears one of the upper mounts on the rears is off centre too, but the bearing in the middle is straight on this one. Is this how they are meant to be? I've seen numerous sets of coilovers and this is the first time I've seen this on a brand new set, it doesn't look right to me. It almost looks like something that happened during manufacturing/shipping but surely they checked them over fully before packaging?

Nate's suggestion was that the pillow ball shifted during shipping and that I should be able to straighten it out. I gave this a shot and the part I'm talking about looks like something mounted fairly solidly as it wouldn't budge.

I thought that it was weird that one of the fronts and one of the rears were both the same, did I just get a bad set of coilovers? Thoughts? Do they need to go back and have them ship me another set?

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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 02:15 PM
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Why not ask them?
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 02:18 PM
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Why not ask them?
I have, waiting on a response, just wanted to get people's opinions here too
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 02:21 PM
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The pillow ball is supposed to move, unless you mean it's installed off-center; but that would mean they drilled the hole in the wrong spot.
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 02:31 PM
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I see what you mean now, just try to install it first and see if it moves back.
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 04:46 PM
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When I bolt the top of the coilover in, will I be able to move the pillow ball around? I've heard they are pretty stiff until broken in. True/false?
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 06:11 PM
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Honestly, just try to get a refund and buy from a different company, a better one. Think about it, your first set and they might be already bad, whats to say the next set wont have a defect that you cant see and causes issues down the road. You get what you pay for.
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by hugo350z
Honestly, just try to get a refund and buy from a different company, a better one. Think about it, your first set and they might be already bad, whats to say the next set wont have a defect that you cant see and causes issues down the road. You get what you pay for.
From everything I'd read and heard they seemed like quality gear, I don't see what people's beef with PBM is.
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Originally Posted by 350ZAustin
When I bolt the top of the coilover in, will I be able to move the pillow ball around? I've heard they are pretty stiff until broken in. True/false?
Yes, when you bolt them in they will be able to move around... Don't know if they are stiff until broken in... Mine feel great, just like when I first installed them... What's the mileage at which they get broken in? I'm creeping on 400 miles and they still feel the same and I'm pretty dumped...

I'm actually going to PBM this week... Is there any other questions you would like me to ask them? LMK
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 350ZAustin
From everything I'd read and heard they seemed like quality gear, I don't see what people's beef with PBM is.
I don't get it either...

It's all good tho, I know I bought a solid quality product... and the 4 year warranty ain't too bad either...

Not to mention that they are local so if I have a problem, they are not too far away
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Originally Posted by 350ZAustin
From everything I'd read and heard they seemed like quality gear, I don't see what people's beef with PBM is.
It is not beef. Read my post again, right off the bat they might be defective. That is neither good for the company or you. Like the other member said, the hole might be off center, and if you install them, they might not want them back. I never seen the mounts that offset, and all the coils ive been around, they were all ways very stiff.
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Originally Posted by hugo350z
It is not beef. Read my post again, right off the bat they might be defective. That is neither good for the company or you. Like the other member said, the hole might be off center, and if you install them, they might not want them back. I never seen the mounts that offset, and all the coils ive been around, they were all ways very stiff.
Keyword :Might

To be quite honest, a lot of the bashing is from people that have never even seen these in person, let alone installed/used them...
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Originally Posted by sdZ33
Keyword :Might

To be quite honest, a lot of the bashing is from people that have never even seen these in person, let alone installed/used them...
If you are refering to when I "suggested" OP buy some "better" coils as bashing, then you are taking things out of context and personal. For the best interest of the Op, saving a little more after he gets the refund(if he decides to go in that route) and purchase coilovers from a better known/more established brand. That is advice, not bashing. Unless someone has ran every coil in the market, no one can say these are better than those and even then it is subjective to said driver. A mixture of construction, brand reputation, reviews, and overall life of the company itself, would make a product better than another. Powered by Max, is not as good as say, Hks, JIC, or Tein in that aspect. Also just because an article shows a product on a competion car does not necessarily justify it as a good product.

Op, in that link that sdz33 provided look at the coils, they are not as tilted as yours. But, like other's suggest wait and see.
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 09:58 PM
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There is nothing wrong with them other than being another china (BC, Megan , etc ) coilover. The mount will move, you want it to stay semi stiff, install them, lower car, say its handles and rides better than stock.
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^ Totally agree. Though Taiwan is more likely the country of origin.
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Originally Posted by hugo350z
If you are refering to when I "suggested" OP buy some "better" coils as bashing, then you are taking things out of context and personal. For the best interest of the Op, saving a little more after he gets the refund(if he decides to go in that route) and purchase coilovers from a better known/more established brand. That is advice, not bashing. Unless someone has ran every coil in the market, no one can say these are better than those and even then it is subjective to said driver. A mixture of construction, brand reputation, reviews, and overall life of the company itself, would make a product better than another. Powered by Max, is not as good as say, Hks, JIC, or Tein in that aspect. Also just because an article shows a product on a competion car does not necessarily justify it as a good product.

Op, in that link that sdz33 provided look at the coils, they are not as tilted as yours. But, like other's suggest wait and see.
My bad, I didn't mean for the post to seem like it was reffering to you... No, you were not bashing for saying that... I meant other people were... looks like they chimed in already... lolz

Anyway OP, if you feel like they are not for you, then I would return them for a refund and go another route...
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i have noticed people bashing pbm for no apparent reason (not talking about anyone in this thread - i mean throughout my research before i bought a set)

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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by vex008
i have noticed people bashing pbm for no apparent reason (not talking about anyone in this thread - i mean throughout my research before i bought a set)
So how did you like them?
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Originally Posted by sdZ33
I don't get it either...

It's all good tho, I know I bought a solid quality product... and the 4 year warranty ain't too bad either...

Not to mention that they are local so if I have a problem, they are not too far away
Thanks man, problem solved now, appreciate it though.
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