cnz

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Hey guys I just purchased some Stance GR Pro+ coil overs with helper springs.. when i got my kit they didn't come with the helper springs so i contacted my dealer and they shipped out the helper springs to me... my question is how do i install the helper springs?
Thanks in advance

terrasmak

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Do you need them?

ocdz

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1.Remove bottom collar from strut assembly.
2.Remove spring perch.
3.Install metal shim between main spring and helper spring.
4.Install Helper spring.
5.Install spring perch.
6.Take note to reinstall with correct pre-load on springs.
7.Install bottom mounting collar on to strut assembly.
8.Done

cnz

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Thanks man i wasn't sure if it was okay to go that route since its my first coilover kit.. how do i figure out the correct pre load or calculate it?

Kim@Forged

If this is your first time using/adjusting coilovers, i would recommend taking it to a shop and have it done. Ask if you can watch, and ask questions as to why they're setting it a certain way. Coilovers are pretty useless if they aren't properly adjusted.

terrasmak

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That is all part of figuring out if you even need helper springs.

Gsedan35

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Correct Preload = The minimum amount of tightness required to keep the spring in place should any one wheel become unladen (off the ground).

This is Stance's claim as to why they include the helper springs with the kit.

"The helper spring allows the shock piston to be placed in the optimal position within the shock body, increasing rebound stroke, and maximizing articulation on cars with minimum suspension travel."

It would have to have the stiffness of a tender spring to impact articulation otherwise it will spend 100% of it's life smashed flat living a pointless existence. IMO the real reason it's their is to allow owners to drop the rear of their cars more then would otherwise be possible.

cnz

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Thank you guys for all your replies, they were informative

ocdz

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Stance coilovers have essentially no preload. You definitely aren't corner balancing so you do not need to take it somewhere to do this. Maybe Kim is just trying to make an extra few bucks.

Read the stance site faq. They detail the process of having the correct pre-load which just means that the spring is snug against the perches but not applying pressure when there is no load on them.

Edit: I think Stance's explanation is crap of what the helper spring does.
The helper spring essentially gives that strut the ability to extend to its full length when there is no weight on it. This could be the difference between having a wheel on the ground and not which has happened to me before. You can really feel the diff working in this case.

So the helper spring does have a function.

Hope this helps.

terrasmak

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Do you even know what corner balancing is ?

Yes they have a function, they keep the main spring from becoming unseated under full damper extention. That is it. If your main spring is fully extended and you have tension on just the helper, you have only a couple pounds on the ground, nothing that will help with traction.

jsan2007

This is Stance's claim as to why they include the helper springs with the kit.

Gsedan35

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Read post #7

suprasam

Because you can totally mail order a suspension install.

ocdz

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yes, i do.

you must have misinterpreted what I said. I did not say that the helper spring gives any pressure but rather that it allows the damper to reach full extension. I've been in a situation where one rear wheel was no on the ground. that was all that was meant.


Suprasam:
I'm sure no one has ever driven from Texas to Georgia. So yea him getting a corner balance from forged is a totally ridiculous statement.

terrasmak

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With or without a helper spring the damper will reach full extention, your unsprung weight will extend the damper a lot faster than a helper spring will. Helper springs have little tension, you can almost fully collapse them between your hands.

http://www.paragon-products.com/Hype.../cs100-2.5.htm

http://www.swiftsprings.net/products...t_springs.html

Both have some good info for you.