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Old 03-30-2012 | 05:28 PM
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Default Lowering Z on Stance GR+ Pro True Coiloves - Questions?

I have purchased my Stance GR+ Pro True Coilovers and along to go with that i also purchased the SPC Rear Camber Kit.
I know that front coilovers come with a camber plate on them.

I had a question.
Do you think i will need a Front Camber Kit?

Car will be pretty low and sitting properly.

I will also be purchasing the Hotchkis Anti-Swaybars in a few weeks.
I just wanted to know if i will need the Front Camber Kit. So i can be done with the suspension all at once.

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Old 03-30-2012 | 05:51 PM
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If you're going to be sitting that low yes you should get a front camber kit.

See this thread for additional info:

https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-...ion-101-a.html
Old 03-30-2012 | 05:54 PM
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Are you sure the + Pro have camber plates? My old ones didn't but that was several years ago.
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Originally Posted by Waizzz
If you're going to be sitting that low yes you should get a front camber kit.

See this thread for additional info:

https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-...ion-101-a.html
Thanks for replying in such a short time.
I figured i would of had to get a front camber kit but i just wanted to assure myself and ask you experts that have done this before.

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Are you sure the + Pro have camber plates? My old ones didn't but that was several years ago.
I asked the guy multiple times before i order them. He made sure that they had front camber plates on them.
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Camber plates do nothing on a Z , you need to buy upper control arms
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Originally Posted by AlexBG
I asked the guy multiple times before i order them. He made sure that they had front camber plates on them.

Fair enough. Mine were circa 2005
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
Camber plates do nothing on a Z , you need to buy upper control arms
SPC Front Camber Kit comes with all this?


SPC Front Camber Kit comes with upper control arms.

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Old 03-30-2012 | 07:24 PM
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Don't get spc, get spl v.2...
And no coil overs period have camber plates that are z33 specific.
And if your going low low, it's not camber that kills tires its toe... Get toe arms as well for the rear. The front slammed will only be out about neg 3 degrees. The rear needs all the attention.

But again, let me reiterate, buy toe arms for the rear. Bolts wont do **** if your slammed. Tein tie rods for the front should be all you need for toe issues.

Edit, trust me, I'm building another z now and spent over 1k just on rear arms alone. Not including cost of stance coils or solid diff bushing or subframe bushings. It's expensive to getbit right but worth it for the longevity of your car and it's parts.

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Old 03-30-2012 | 07:34 PM
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^great info...i need new tie rods i was told
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Get SPL's for the front and rear if you can. I have SPL for the front and im pretty low with about -2.5 camber. I have SPC in the rear and i am going to switch whenever I get the money to do so.
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Double post...

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Definitely get spl stuff, I'm rocking thier whole rear setup. I love the spl stuff, even though I drove Austin to pick up my stuff and they were closed... On a Friday morning...
Besides, you can visually see the difference in quality.

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Yeah and if your gonna sit preety low your going to need to add the shims also. I didn't and was still negative 2 degrees on camber so I added them and got back into spec
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Originally Posted by TehkMob
Don't get spc, get spl v.2...
And no coil overs period have camber plates that are z33 specific.
And if your going low low, it's not camber that kills tires its toe... Get toe arms as well for the rear. The front slammed will only be out about neg 3 degrees. The rear needs all the attention.

But again, let me reiterate, buy toe arms for the rear. Bolts wont do **** if your slammed. Tein tie rods for the front should be all you need for toe issues.

Edit, trust me, I'm building another z now and spent over 1k just on rear arms alone. Not including cost of stance coils or solid diff bushing or subframe bushings. It's expensive to getbit right but worth it for the longevity of your car and it's parts.

hey bro what you mean by this " it's not camber that kills tires its toe... "

i am trying to lower my car on coilovers and these are what i am trying to get:

1) rear camber arms probably getting the rod end.

2) I am going to get some toe bolt for the rear too

3) Front upper control arms.

4) Coilovers....i am thinking of BC Coils but i am also interested on the topspeed coil that is sold here for $560.

When you said it is not camber that kills tires it is toe. are you talking about rear toe bolt ? I am sorry i am new to this lowering game. I am trying to learn. I got my information for JasonYaZ post but i am not sure if i understand everything now. Please clarify what you said. thank you very much.
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When your toe is out your tires are either turning in or out on them selves so they are always fighting each other. Think of it this way, when your tires aren't straight in the direction your going adds friction which means more/faster wear... Like being in a constant drift.

If you're going to "slam" your car toe bolts are only going to give you a extra degree or two at most. You need around two inches more toe arm to compensation for the drop, the bolt just doesn't have that type of travel.

Camber plays a small part in tire wear, toe is really the tire killer.

Here's a pic of the setupnfor my second z. Arms are forth rear only, as well as the solid bushings. Just to give you an idea of what it takes to roll slammed and still keep **** n check

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SPL all the way
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all that mony on that table lol
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Thank you TekMob. However i am not sure what these parts are. can you please tell me what they are. thank you

here your pictures.

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Originally Posted by TehkMob
But again, let me reiterate, buy toe arms for the rear. Bolts wont do **** if your slammed. Tein tie rods for the front should be all you need for toe issues.
inner or outer tie rods adjust toe in front? if i keep stock tie rods and am dropped 2 inches will the toe be affected?

Originally Posted by 350sexZ
Yeah and if your gonna sit preety low your going to need to add the shims also. I didn't and was still negative 2 degrees on camber so I added them and got back into spec
how many shims did you add? how low was your drop?

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Originally Posted by sssmasss
Thank you TekMob. However i am not sure what these parts are. can you please tell me what they are. thank you

here your pictures.

Diff bushing and Toe arms, you can use them in place of the spring bucket with a true rear coilovers.

BTW camber arms, not cambers and the one you have circled in red are actually the traction arms. The rear camber arms are inbetween the traction and toe arms.

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