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Old Jan 21, 2017 | 08:36 PM
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Hey Guys,

What do you think of the following alignment for a weekend track car. It gets used mildly during the week like 2-3 times during weekdays. Other than that, it is mostly for weekend.


Camber Front
-1.5 -1.5
Caster
8.5 8.5
Toe
.05 .05

Camber Rear
-1.0 -1.0
Toe
.08 .08

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Camber Front
-1.0 -1.0
Caster
8.5 8.5
Toe
.05 .05

Camber Rear
-1.5 -1.5
Toe
.08 .08

So in essence, is it better to run more camber in front or rear? Thanks in advance!
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Old Jan 21, 2017 | 08:58 PM
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First if all, if you track the car and use it as a play to for turning corners there is no reason to have less then -2.5 camber up front even if it's a daily driver. If it is only a play car, -3 up front and if it's primary purpose is the track , but up to -3.3 to -3.5 . Then the rear, unless it's high hp , no need for anything less then -2.
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Jesus that's almost entering camber/slammmed boi territoriy lol
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First if all, if you track the car and use it as a play to for turning corners there is no reason to have less then -2.5 camber up front even if it's a daily driver. If it is only a play car, -3 up front and if it's primary purpose is the track , but up to -3.3 to -3.5 . Then the rear, unless it's high hp , no need for anything less then -2.
Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up. I always thought those numbers were too high based on the stock settings for semi daily/weekend track car. But I wanted to get some experienced track guys to chime in on that as I wasn't sure. I've had some crazy inside wear on the tires front and back but I think it's mainly due to toe.

What are your thoughts on toe I mentioned? Also, what are the differences you guys feel having more camber out front versus rear?
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Old Jan 22, 2017 | 05:41 AM
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Jesus that's almost entering camber/slammmed boi territoriy lol
LOLs Touche. Although, I'm not going for #stancelife even though it looks nice but more so road race stance. The car gets driven...hard. So not really going for show car at this point.
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Old Jan 22, 2017 | 09:02 AM
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Rear toe I run OEM spec, also perfect for the track, front I run 0 of slight toe out.

Having more camber up front increases front grip, and reduces understeer. Reducing indersteer is a must, even when running a square tire combo
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Old Jan 22, 2017 | 11:29 AM
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I now run -2.5 and -1.5 camber


Vs the -3.5 and -2.5 I can tell you it does understeer compared to when I ran more camber. But I do drive it on the street a couple times a month and tires are not cheap. So it's a trade off. I might end going back to more camber and just take the hit in the bank.


I also run OEM specs on rear toe
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Old Jan 22, 2017 | 12:06 PM
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The last year mine was a daily driver it was aligned at race specs . It had -3.3 front and -2.2 rear, I did put like 25k miles on it that year, just like the previous years.
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I don't carry $1200 to throw on a new set of tires every 5k miles sorry lol
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Old Jan 22, 2017 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by HRMoneyPit
I don't carry $1200 to throw on a new set of tires every 5k miles sorry lol
You aint bout that life . Sorry.
Get a prius.
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Obviously you see I run the less camber to keep my tires longer. Kids.....
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I don't carry $1200 to throw on a new set of tires every 5k miles sorry lol
I ran V12 for street use , typically got 20 to 30k a set. Rear of my car has always been at -2 to -2.1 the upper end of OEM spec. Somehow my tires just lasted. Even at -3.3 up front, my V12's lasted a year
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It was the combination for me. I was running a very aggressive alignment with toe in front and rear. They also lasted a year but that was like 5k miles for my car
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
I ran V12 for street use , typically got 20 to 30k a set. Rear of my car has always been at -2 to -2.1 the upper end of OEM spec. Somehow my tires just lasted. Even at -3.3 up front, my V12's lasted a year
Was this daily?! I see that tread wear rating is at 280aaa for v12. I use Nitto NT05 with a square set up. Tread rating is at 200 :/ I love the grip though.
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Was this daily?! I see that tread wear rating is at 280aaa for v12. I use Nitto NT05 with a square set up. Tread rating is at 200 :/ I love the grip though.
Yes, back when it was daily driven. I did have separate wheels with nt05 or rs3 once I figured out the nt05 was garbage
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Yes, back when it was daily driven. I did have separate wheels with nt05 or rs3 once I figured out the nt05 was garbage
Why do you think they're garbage in comparison? They have the same treadwear rating. Grip? What differences did you feel when switching over?
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Originally Posted by dragon11689
Why do you think they're garbage in comparison? They have the same treadwear rating. Grip? What differences did you feel when switching over?
Nto5 is slower, wears faster, turns into a brick after a heat cycle, and costs slightly less
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Are all of you guys getting these camber and faster measures on OEM amounts and tie rods?

Or are you guys using after market links, arms and camber adj..?

I'm thinking about installing my Beilsteins but don't wanna have to jump into more mods to retain a decent alignment.
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Old Jan 25, 2017 | 06:22 PM
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Well we are not running "decent" alignments. We run track alignments and have the proper parts to
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Originally Posted by CK_32
Are all of you guys getting these camber and faster measures on OEM amounts and tie rods?

Or are you guys using after market links, arms and camber adj..?

I'm thinking about installing my Beilsteins but don't wanna have to jump into more mods to retain a decent alignment.
A basic rear camber arm and toe bolt kit , and front upper control arm will give you what you need.

Some of the cars have the basics mentioned. Mine is on the far from basic side of things.
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