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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 02:49 AM
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aside of $$ value..
anybody know which coilover is best for track use?
(personally i think z33 understeers pretty bad...so mabye some thing that can help the understeer?or correct me if i am wrong)
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 06:53 AM
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JIC FLT-A2's seem to be the coilover of choice for tracking.

But there are others that seem up to par or even better for tracking such as

Ohlins
KW Suspension
Quantum
D2

Ultimately, an independent shock + spring combo is best for road racing such as getting Penske shocks and King Motorsport springs with custom springrates.

Victor
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 03:11 PM
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how about zeal?
any one have used it ?
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 03:25 PM
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Funny you should ask. I just have the first production units from Zeal. I just ditched my HKS Damper II's for the new V6 model. It was hard to let go of the HKS cuz those are such nice coil-overs, but man... Zeal is definitely the way to go. I have yet to start tracking the car, but trust me, my car is all ready to hit the track once I retire from the show scene. The Zeals have got to be the nicest coil-overs I've used by far. They control the body and motion of the car so well that I forgot how badly the stock suspension was until a friend of mine was driving me around. If I had to rate coil-overs outta 10, my experience with Tein and JIC are probably around 6 or 7, HKS around 8.5 and the Zeals are 10. I don't know if there is a better buy than the Zeals to be honest.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 03:45 PM
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i used zeal @ my last car, and i like it a lot too
wat modle is the zeal coilover for z?
and how much did u get it?
do u happened to have any inf on it?
thanks~
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I think it's called the V6. It's using inverted shocks in the rear, but not the front. I'm sponsored by Zeal and Endless so I can't speak of what I paid or not paid. I hope I didn't say too much.
www.endlessusa.com might have some info on it and hopefully, I'll talk to Kent and have him come to the Z forums and post. Unfortunately, they're really busy since D1 is this coming weekend and HIN is the weekend right afterward.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 05:03 PM
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does v6 and s6 basically the same thing just s6 is mad of alluminum?and how dou think of super function?
thanks for the help here
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SOFB. I typed out this reponse and then the server gives me the database error page. I hate this.
Anyway, brief summary, I was sick and didn't listen to what the guys said about how the inverted design is better for racing. I just wanted to drive the car. So when they Zeal guys have time, I'll have them come in to give a full report of the system.
The S6 is lightweight, but not inverted and I think they don't have that application for our cars. Neither the super function. If they do come with the super function, I'm very tempted to ask them to swap my coil-overs out for the SF ones.
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Originally posted by Mr B
. So when they Zeal guys have time, I'll have them come in to give a full report of the system.
pleaz do so ...
that will be very helpful.~~
o..and do u got the spec for the v6 modle?
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I got nothing but the coil-overs. I'll ask for more information come Monday.
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Originally posted by Mr B
I got nothing but the coil-overs. I'll ask for more information come Monday.
thanks~!
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it is already tue, and where is mah inf?
can't wait to get more inf on it ..
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Hahaha, I messaged him yesterday and he's supposed to email me info. Unfortunately, everyone's really busy with D1. I will bug him again tomorrow.
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Originally posted by Mr B
Hahaha, I messaged him yesterday and he's supposed to email me info. Unfortunately, everyone's really busy with D1. I will bug him again tomorrow.
thanks again~!
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Moton........

They will also be releasing a club sport package
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Originally posted by dwnshift
Moton........

They will also be releasing a club sport package
any inf on it?
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Not yet as they are still in development.
They will be in the $4200 range since there is a price hike as the dollar has sunk in Holland.
The Moton race version are in the $5000 rage.
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Like whoa. Moton's are fuggin awesome, but I don't have money for that.
I got this much outta one of the guys at Zeal before he ran off to prep some more stuff for the up coming show.s Bare with me since this is only some specs.


-front and rear pillow ball upper mounts
-spring rates are 10 kgf/mm FRONT and 8 kgf/mm REAR but they offer custom rates
-inverted monotube type in the rear
-normal monotube type in the front (aluminum shell casing) for lightweight attributes for smooth, solid feel
-trackable and VERY streetable as well
-warranty included
-overhauling done in the U.S. so it's inexpensive
-tuning is derived from professional endless drivers in JGTC, Super Taikyu, etc. and settings are determined WITH streetability in mind

So that's what they told me to write. I hope that helps.
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That Zeal setup sounds like a milder version of the FLTA2s
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 06:14 PM
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I hope Advance-Design comes out with a damper for the Z. $400 each, custom spring rates available, and low speed compression and rebound independently adjustable. High speed rebound adjustments on some applications, and they have proven themselves very well with many teams racing BMW, Porsche, and most of the racers in the SE-R cup.
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