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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 10:46 PM
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Question Z Non-Brembo Rear Track Pads??

OK folks, what's a good choice for the non-brembo stock rear pads for the 350z? I can get Hawk HPS. Having trouble finding better choices and don't really want to spend >$100.

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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 07:57 PM
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Bump. What are you putting on the rear non-Brembos for the track?
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 08:41 PM
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Try Carbotech Panther + or Panther XP for the rears at the track (www.carbotecheng.com) They're a little pricier than what you've mentioned you'd like to spend, but the fact of the matter is that there are very few manufacturers who make rear pads for the non-Brembos. Good luck!

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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 09:38 PM
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Thanks Gary, you're not kidding. Why couldn't they use a more used pad!
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 06:40 AM
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Porterfield makes a high performance rear pad. Not a true track pad though.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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Do you know the part number for the R4-S? I can't find it on their website.
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Porterfield makes a high performance rear pad. Not a true track pad though.
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 09:25 AM
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I just ordered Porterfirled's track pad, the R4 for the non-Brembo rears on my car. I've been using stocks on the rear at the track.
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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I'm using Carbotech Panther Plus in the rear and Performance Friction 01 on the front (StopTech front only kit). Works great. I leave the rears in for street and track (except during the off-season). If you buy them in bulk (like I do, because the tiny ******* don't last very long), you can get attractive pricing from Carbotech.

Also, this is just my opinion but I think the Porterfield R4-S is crap. Their R4 is a proper track pad but the R4-S is a very mediocre pad and has nothing to do with the real R4. I guess they are fine for street/autoX use and maybe for a total newbie's first couple of days at a track but there are much better pads out there (even in the *gasp* high-performance street pad category).
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 05:26 AM
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I only ran the R4-s rears once on a track last year with Axxis ultimate fronts. My impression was that the stopping was greatly increased and the under steer was diminished. I attribute this to the better grip from the front pads. The OEM pads wore faster in the rear so I'm thinking the new combination put more bias to the front.
I will be tracking it more in the coming month and should have more experience with the Ultimate/ R4-S combination. Don't know as I'd call the R4-S pad crap yet but I used Panthers once on my M3 and was amazed how quickly they wore out. Expensive though!
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by FCallender
I only ran the R4-s rears once on a track last year with Axxis ultimate fronts. My impression was that the stopping was greatly increased and the under steer was diminished. I attribute this to the better grip from the front pads. The OEM pads wore faster in the rear so I'm thinking the new combination put more bias to the front.
I will be tracking it more in the coming month and should have more experience with the Ultimate/ R4-S combination. Don't know as I'd call the R4-S pad crap yet but I used Panthers once on my M3 and was amazed how quickly they wore out. Expensive though!
The AXXIS Ultimate is not a track pad and will give you deposition problems as your skill level improves. I strongly suggest you swap in some sort of club race pad, at a minimum, for your next event.

I second Jason's opinion on the Porterfield R4-S pad. In my opinion, they took advantage of the good name of the R4 club race pad when naming their mediocre street pad and have introduced all sorts of confusion as a result. More than one track day has been ruined by the R4-S pad which is often pushed as a street/light-duty track pad. It's no more a track pad than the EBC Greenstuff! It doesn't help when people post on message boards that they installed R4s (meaning a set of R4 club race pads) on their car and had a great experience at the track and then all the novices think they are referring to the R4-S..

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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 05:55 AM
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I'm going to run a half day Friday (instructor session) on a track that's easy on brakes and should have a good idea of wear on the Ultimate/ R4-S combo.
Can't dispute Dave's advice (he's the expert) but there aren't many choices yet for the non Brembo setup. Also his statement about deposition bothers me. I did that with my stock M3 brakes and it sucks as the only answer for it is new rotors.
Are the Nismo pads better?
I was very happy with Performance Friction pads on my M3 but they don't make a track pad for non Brembo, last I heard.
Dave M - any help?
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 07:38 AM
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Porterfield will cut rear pads for the rear non-brembo Z brakes, in their race compound pad, the R4. I have them now and will run them for the first time this Thursday at Lime Rock. Up front I am running Cobalt Friction Spec VR pads. Call Porterfield and see what they have for you.
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 06:40 AM
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If you have a part number for the Porterfields that would be great.
Thanks.
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 07:11 AM
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If you go with Carbotechs in the back, don't even think of getting anything less than the XP9. On tight tracks you will easily go through a set in a weeekend...
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