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Old 09-22-2004 | 07:42 AM
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Default Anyone running on Cusco Zero II's?

Just wondering what you thought of them. They seem to be a decent kit at a reasonable price (compared to a JIC or HKS kit). Is the quality as good as an HKS unit? Have you tracked them?
Thanks in advance.

Oh- one more thing. Where did you purchase them from?
Old 09-22-2004 | 06:25 PM
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I don't have Cuscos, but they have a very good reputation as far as suspension goes, so I don't think you can go wrong here. HKS is known for their quality, but this is also reflected in their pricing.
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they have funky spring rates, im curious
Old 09-23-2004 | 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by ihatethatbobbarker
they have funky spring rates, im curious

What do you mean, funky? What are they offhand?
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Originally posted by speedform
What do you mean, funky? What are they offhand?
10kg front 7kg rear...
from what i have read is that they need to be used with their sways to function properly.
the rear sway bar i think is 70% stiffer than stock...
Old 09-23-2004 | 04:36 PM
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thanks sugar britches
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do some searches....several of us here have them
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Originally posted by daytona350z
10kg front 7kg rear...
from what i have read is that they need to be used with their sways to function properly.
the rear sway bar i think is 70% stiffer than stock...
Sway bars are not ment to coverup gross error's in tuning/chassis setup. Sway bars are ment to fine tune a setup that is properly dialed in. The FM platorm has very low rear motion rates, which is the reason the oem rear spring rates are higher then the front.

Their are several good books on the subject of chassis setup, I would highly recommend they be read before going with a setup with the Cusco's specs. Frankly, do not listen to me, or to anyone that is biased. Do your own research.

Cusco Zero 1&2
560/392 F+78% R+15%
Transfers +63% roll stiffness to front (no they do not run their rear springs on the dampner body, oem location, seen them on the car with my own eyes.)

The specs of the other systems.

Tein Flex
672/672 F+114% R+98
Transfers +16% roll stiffness to front

Tein Flex JDM specs (can be special ordered est 6-8 weeks delivery)
560/560 F+78% R+64%
Transfers 14% roll stiffness to front

Tein Basic
504/504 F+61% R+43%
Transfers +18% roll stiffness to front

Tein SS (JDM only at this time. 6-8 weeks delivery, come via ship)
392/314-392 (rear’s are progressive
F+25% R+15% at peak
(differs from CS, twin tube, progressive rear springs, and cost is lower

Tein CS (Monotube)
392/392 F+25% R15%
Transfers +10% roll stiffness to front

Nismo S-tune (uses progressive springs, especially in rear)
350Z/G35 Coupe
448/504 F+43% R+48%
Transfers +5% roll stiffness to rear

Nismo S-tune (uses progressive springs)
G35 Sedan
347/342 F+10% R+0%
Transfers 10% roll stiffness to front

Buddy Club Racing Spec coilover (Monotube)
748/280*
(very likely run's rear springs on the dampner body and not at the oem rear spring location)

Jic Flta-2 350Z fitment (Monotube)
560/672 F+78% R+98%
Transfers +20% roll stiffness to rear

Jic Flta-2 G35 coupe (Monotube)
560/560 F+78% R+64% $1750
Transfers 14% roll stiffness to front

Jic Flta-2 G35 sedan (Monotube)
504/392 F+61% R+15%
Transfers +46% roll stiffness to front

HKS LS+ G35 (rear springs are progressive)
496/440 +58%front +29%rear
transfers 29% roll stiffness to the front

HKS LS G35
448/336 43%front -1%
transfers 44% roll stiffness to the front

HKS LS 350z
448/448 43%front +31%
transfers 12% roll stiffness to the front

HKS II 504/504 +61%front +47%rear $1600
transfers 14% roll stiffness to the front

HKS RS 448/448 F+43% R+31%
Transfers 12% roll stiffness to the front
(specifically valved less aggressively then
The II coilover’s)

Zeal function V6 coil over $2855
Both G35 and 350Z rates are the same
560/448 F+78% R+31%
Transfers +47% roll stiffness to front

KW coilovers Variant's 1,2&3
Variant 3's are noteworthy as the only known coilover for these cars where the dampners are adjustable for compression and rebound independently. They also differ in using progressive springs front and rear
Front: 485lbs to 525Lbs Rear: 240Lbs to 548Lbs

D2 Racing Coilovers (Monotube)
840/728 F+168% R+113% (wee bit stiff eh, the recommended rate to)
Transfers 55% roll stiffness to front
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Great write-up Gsedan35. This should help a lot. Thanks!
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needs aragosta and kei office specs, i cant find the kei office specs anywhere.
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I have the Cusco Zero-2R's with pillowball

but it's on my 240SX, so wouldn't make a good comparison.

Sorry for this dumb post.

Victor
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I have the Zero-2 and the Cusco sway bars. Track time has been at Road America and Brainerd here in MN. I don't think I'd buy them again even at the $1200 I got them for. There just isn't enough adjustability.

Slow speed corners below 60mph I can use the throttle to help keep the car balanced easily. Above that, before aerodynamic forces contribute too much, it is pretty difficult to dial out understeer. The carousel at RA is a really good example of this. Speeds are 75-80mph, the radius is pretty constant until later in the corner. No matter what combo of tire pressures and dampening settings I use the car doesn't want to turn. It would be slightly better with wider tires on the front, but I still feel the the spring rates and the dampning aren't right. I'd like to get (should be getting) 5-10mph more in that corner on street tires...

I'll be upgrading to Tein or HKS for next year. Not sure which sway bars I'll go with yet...

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Old 09-28-2004 | 12:13 PM
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From Gsedan35's writeup, the KW's look like a good prospect. I understand they are also made from stainless steel to prevent corrosion.
Anyone know of a decent North American supplier?
Old 09-28-2004 | 12:29 PM
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to add a few more...

tanabe type s-oc (ii) and ss (ii)

tanabe doesn't have thier specs listed for the s-oc (ii) or the ss (ii)on thier website yet; however you can pick custom spring rates on the type ss (ii).

silk road rm/a8 - 10k F 8k R

if somebody could find the rest of the specs on these 2 coilovers.

as a side note, i never realized that the tein type flex used such stiff springs.
Old 09-28-2004 | 12:55 PM
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ive actually considered the silk roads 240 guys love them
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yea, me too ... the retail on them is $1700, so im sure you could probably find them for around 1300-1400, which isn't too bad. the spring rates are a little too soft for what im wanting, but i was told that they will make you a set with custom spring rates and valving ... but im not sure if this is true

my next set of coilovers will be the tanabe ss type ii as soon as they are released!
Old 09-28-2004 | 03:27 PM
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I called on the Tanabe's and your right Moroccan, they won't be avail. for awhile. They couldn' t say when either.
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someone told me they are too expensive to put in production at the moment
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Originally posted by ihatethatbobbarker
someone told me they are too expensive to put in production at the moment
poop.

ohwell ... i guess ill have to save a little more and buy the upmost quality brand
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Originally posted by Moroccan_Mole
poop.

ohwell ... i guess ill have to save a little more and buy the upmost quality brand
aragosta's?


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