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Old 04-15-2005, 05:51 PM
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How high would gas prices need to get before you would change your driving habits?
Old 04-15-2005, 05:55 PM
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It is around $2.80 in Southern California (I heard today that it is over $3.00 in San Francisco!) I might curtail my driving if it hits $4.00. I'm so glad I don't drive a Lincoln Navigator.
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Maybe this isn't the reason, but there seems to be less traffic on the 405 every day.
Old 04-16-2005, 07:32 AM
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I am in NJ so it around like 2.19 for premium where I go. But my car isn't the problem my wife Xtrerra get Ferrari like mpg 14-16. At least I get still 20-21 mpg. Anyway I don't drive it very hard so wouldn't change anything just yet till we are pay like over $3-4 a gallon. And even then I have a Neon still.
Old 04-16-2005, 03:21 PM
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I am already paying $2.85+ for premium; I think if it hits $3.75-$4.00 I might slow down some, but I have payed way more then this for fuel in other parts of the world so I don't think I would stop.
Old 04-16-2005, 05:40 PM
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i spend about $80 a month on gas if I don't go to houston. I drive my car harder than average and mostly top and go. I am WOT a lot and only get 18-19... I know I can drive to get 24ish mpg but I wasn't having fun with my car when I did that and that would only save me about $20 a month (gladdly spend $20 to have fun in my car). If it goes 25-30% higher than it is now I may start driving in 24mpg mode
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~$2.70 for premium here in Phoenix.
I'm glad that my brand new 05 Neon rental has 29mpg
But I want my car back even more. Those focking people at the body shop...
Old 04-16-2005, 06:50 PM
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I'll probebly never change my driving habits, unless gas hits $8 a gallon (thats how much I get reimbursed for at work)
Old 04-16-2005, 06:58 PM
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Here we have $.07 off premium days so I basically have to coordinate my gas buying with the special days. Its BP gas so at least its not cheap stuff.
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Honestly, they'd probably have to triple. I dont know about you, but when looking at fuel costs as a percentage of total income, its pretty low for me.
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Gas is no more expensive today than it was 45 years ago. In 1960 when I got my first car gas was selling for 25 cents per gallon and the average wage was $1.00 per hr. Today gas costs $2.50 per gallon and the average wage is $10.00 per hr. a ten fold increase in both the price of gas and the price of labor.

Gas would have to cost at least $5.00 per gallon at today's wages to start really having an impact on people's driving habits here in the USA.
Old 04-16-2005, 11:31 PM
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Today i paid 2.69 for premium at Race Track (cheapest gas station in town).

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Originally Posted by Jim Yandell
(I heard today that it is over $3.00 in San Francisco!).
Yes it is... and that being for regular at certain SF locations also...
Old 04-16-2005, 11:43 PM
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True to a certain point; most people that can afford to buy a Z (without putting themselves into major debt) can afford 30-70 for a fill-up; but not everyone. Personally it will take a lot more then $2.85 per gallon to stop me driving. Like I said previously; I have spent far more on a fill-up outside the US.
Old 04-17-2005, 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Zcool
Gas is no more expensive today than it was 45 years ago. In 1960 when I got my first car gas was selling for 25 cents per gallon and the average wage was $1.00 per hr. Today gas costs $2.50 per gallon and the average wage is $10.00 per hr. a ten fold increase in both the price of gas and the price of labor.

Gas would have to cost at least $5.00 per gallon at today's wages to start really having an impact on people's driving habits here in the USA.
But now, people pay around twice as much in taxes as they did in 1960, on average.
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makes me laugh when you US guys complain about fuel prices. Here in the UK it`s just under $8 a gallon
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Originally Posted by Jim Yandell
How high would gas prices need to get before you would change your driving habits?
Pretty damn high. Nor would I condsider an alternative or hybrid. I suppose I'm a fossil fuel guy. I can get 27.5 mpg in the Z if I stay out of it. The Passat gets around 28 mpg, and my truck gets about 17mpg.

We're at about $2.40/ gal. here for premium. What unnerves me is how we see this spike in prices at the pump EVERY year in late spring. No matter what the market does, you can count on the price spike. The big gas companies report record profits - they just did again for the 1st Qtr. I'm convinced there's something to that...........kinda like how the airlines price their seating.........
Old 04-17-2005, 08:30 AM
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I must say the Z is quite good with gas. Its been awhile for me since owning a car. For the performance the Z puts out it gets exceptionally good gas mileage. I owned a supercharged Frontier and i was lucky to get 15mpg. I just shake my head at people driving the big rigs. Like excursion, navigators, escalades etc. Here in montana its around 2.20 for regulare and 2.40 for premium. Due to the elevation it isn't necessary for me to use the premium stuff. If I go FI then I may increase octane. I have my own mixture of toluene and MMT at my disposal as well.
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Originally Posted by satcom2k
True to a certain point; most people that can afford to buy a Z (without putting themselves into major debt) can afford 30-70 for a fill-up; but not everyone. Personally it will take a lot more then $2.85 per gallon to stop me driving. Like I said previously; I have spent far more on a fill-up outside the US.

Bonaire, N.A. = 2.20 a QUART! (and thats in american dollars!) we have two trucks there (small trucks - similar to a tacoma or b2200) and each is a 100+ fill up everytime at the pump. i haven't been back since the gas price surge, but i am returning in July, cant wait to see how much it costs then.

i have a question, although the US had an increase in gas prices does this too mean that the rest of the world follows suit? or do they just price out each barrel with each country destination in mind?

john
Old 04-17-2005, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 3fidd
makes me laugh when you US guys complain about fuel prices. Here in the UK it`s just under $8 a gallon
$8.00 in the UK? Well, nearly everyone needs to drive here in the U.S., including the poor. At least you guys have decent public transportation. In many geographic areas, we don't.


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