Buying a 5AT! :(
If it's your car, I say go with what you want. 6MT! I made my fiance cry when I bought my car (I hadn't bought her a ring yet and when I did that fixed everything,
). But I still got the car I wanted and everyday when I get in it I smile because of it...Good luck!
). But I still got the car I wanted and everyday when I get in it I smile because of it...Good luck!
Originally Posted by jberzerker
She will be the one who actually drives is everyday to work and home. I have a truck for work so I will only be driving the car maybe in the evenings and weekends. I just don't want her to crash the damn thing because of inexperience.
You really can teach her pretty quickly if she's willing to learn. Talk it over with her and feel it out. If you can convince her, great. If not, just compromise with the AT. You are still getting an awesome car either way.
I agree get the 6MT bro. But if she is going to do most of the driving the Auto would be a better fit. But! if you really want the manual, you're going to have to teach her. The sad part is if she has never been taught to drive stick before...that poor Z
. Good luck.
. Good luck.
Last edited by elms350Z; Aug 18, 2005 at 06:57 AM.
I agree that if your dead set on 6mt the 5at "manumatic" is a poor replacement. However the 5AT isn't any slower unless you're one of the best stick drivers on this forum. If she is going to be driving it everday and doesn't want the stick you are kind of stuck...
You can easily peal out from a stop with the 5AT (may need to turn traction contorl off)
I have the 5AT even though I know how to drive a stick. My only regret was I didn't realize there was such elitism amung car enthusiest against automatic transmissions. I thought most people would just buy what they prefer to use everyday and go on with their life... which is how it seems to be with domestic sports car. However with the Japanese car scene it seems everyone thinks it takes a PhD and a 10inch **** to drive stick and if you go automatic you're a pansy, dumb ash, poser. This has kept me from going to Z meets and import meets b/c I would rather not have to deal with that level of immaturity...
You can easily peal out from a stop with the 5AT (may need to turn traction contorl off)
I have the 5AT even though I know how to drive a stick. My only regret was I didn't realize there was such elitism amung car enthusiest against automatic transmissions. I thought most people would just buy what they prefer to use everyday and go on with their life... which is how it seems to be with domestic sports car. However with the Japanese car scene it seems everyone thinks it takes a PhD and a 10inch **** to drive stick and if you go automatic you're a pansy, dumb ash, poser. This has kept me from going to Z meets and import meets b/c I would rather not have to deal with that level of immaturity...
Last edited by hypeiv; Aug 18, 2005 at 07:03 AM.
I think you've got an easy choice, it sounds like it's going to be her car anyway, so get the 5AT. Then act subtley upset about it (as though you're REALLY disappointed but trying to not show it) and talk her into a Vortech plus SGP Valvebody upgrade. You'd whip any stock 6MT you could find...
you will be hearing from your wife for as long as you own the car if you dont go her way. personaly, i would take the yelling and get the 6 speed. however, since she will be driving it 80% of the time..get the 5AT.
Originally Posted by jberzerker
I just have one question, can you break the tires off the line with an auto??? I mean without breakstands or anything??
The last three cars I have owned were all standards, but I came across an excellent deal on a very low mileage 5AT Z, and bought it. While I miss the stick shift, I have become accustomed to the AT, and I'm glad I have it in the daily traffic. I usually use the tiptronic shifting, except when in traffic.
If I buy another one, it will be the 6MT since this is no longer my daily driver. For daily driving though, the convenience of the AT can't be beat.. in combination with the tiptronic shifter for blasting down country roads.
the question is...is she willing to learn? you can teah her to drive stick in less than an hour and after dricing for a whole month she'll be comfortable with it. if you are going that route send her to a driving school (no sense in messing up the clutch on your new Z) and have her go through the motions...in the beginning all she really needs to practice are the 1-2 shift and uphill 1-2...finding the gears is relatively easy.
make the learning experience fun for her. if you approach it like it's a chore than she ain't doing it....not that i'm saying women are stubborn....oh no....not me. lol.
make the learning experience fun for her. if you approach it like it's a chore than she ain't doing it....not that i'm saying women are stubborn....oh no....not me. lol.
Well we tried the whole standard lessons before in '02 when I bought a new Celica GTS, didn't go to well, but I didn't let her drive enough to learn. So the car sat there and didn't move only on weekends so I sold it a got an auto IS300 with e-shift. It was nice in traffic but no sports car. I will try to talk her in the 6mt but if I have to settle with a 5at that will be alright, I just want the Z really bad. I will get a SC if I get the auto anyways so I guess it would be alright.
My pops has been a delivery guy in Los Angeles for the past 13 years. All he ever owned was MT cars (I think it's because they used to be cheaper). Now he's paying the price, his left knee is all screwed up from using the clutch so much. Then again it is L.A. stop/go. Even though people say (and I respect their opinion) that a/t is "pointless", "girly" or "just plain wrong" I chose an automatic. I don't race, nor ever hit the track, I can't afford ruining an amazing machine or hitting somebody on the road(then why have a Z?,... simple... show off/bragging rights ). A friend of mine had a M/T Track Z, after about 2 years, he got tired of stick, now he drives an a/t truck. I strongly believe if you're a M/T driver, a/t will just be too boring for you, but just like VQ3 said, "YOU'RE BUYING A Z" which is the bottom line. Besides, I don't think your wife will like for you to show the inside of your Z to some other chicks. I'm engaged... I should know. Oh yeah and I AM A SINNER... who isn't?
Originally Posted by hypeiv
However with the Japanese car scene it seems everyone thinks it takes a PhD and a 10inch **** to drive stick and if you go automatic you're a pansy, dumb ash, poser. This has kept me from going to Z meets and import meets b/c I would rather not have to deal with that level of immaturity... 
But ask anyone that commutes in DC/LA/SF how fun a stick is when an accident shuts down the highway and its one lane bumper to bumper for three hours.
Last edited by dcmidnight; Aug 18, 2005 at 09:27 AM.
Hey look I'm not here to say one is bad or the other is better or whatever. It is what it is and personal preference means everything. Its not like I bought an AT and it came with an 80hp engine, the AT can be driven just as hard and fast and FUN as a MT. Shouldnt that be what the Z is about, having FUN? Sure if I lived on the backroads in the country somewhere and worked from home, I would have bought a stick. But the AT is topnotch and I havent had one second of regret.
Originally Posted by hypeiv
However with the Japanese car scene it seems everyone thinks it takes a PhD and a 10inch **** to drive stick and if you go automatic you're a pansy, dumb ash, poser. This has kept me from going to Z meets and import meets b/c I would rather not have to deal with that level of immaturity... 
If it is mainly your wife's car, looks like an auto. If you are mostly are interested in acceleration from a stop, no problem with the auto with TCS off. In fact, I could argue that it is easier to accelerate from a dead stop consistently with an auto if you step on the brake with your left foot and pre-load the drivetrain using your right foot before you take off.
Originally Posted by CervanteZ
I've never been to a meet, do they look down on people just 'cause they have a/t z????
It's a sports car purist issue. You actually shift a sports car......you get slushboxes in minivans and bland commuter cars. When you dumb down a sports car by putting the shiftless in it we purists don't like it......it's like going on a hunting trip where all the deer are tied up to the trees
Originally Posted by Low J.
It's a sports car purist issue. You actually shift a sports car......you get slushboxes in minivans and bland commuter cars. When you dumb down a sports car by putting the shiftless in it we purists don't like it......it's like going on a hunting trip where all the deer are tied up to the trees 

Originally Posted by CervanteZ
Ssssssso I take that as a "Yes"?
I test drove cars with stick before I bought my car, I just wasn't into the whole japanese sports car scene so I had no idea the stigma against automatics was so harsh. I fully understand why a lot of people would never even halfway consider getting an automatic but I don't understand why so many people think my car is less of a sports car or less of a Z because of it.
I wonder why you never hear people saying AC, cruise control, leather seats, sunroof, power steering, ABS, etc make your car less of a sports car.
Originally Posted by Low J.
When you dumb down a sports car by putting the shiftless in it we purists don't like it......it's like going on a hunting trip where all the deer are tied up to the trees 



