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Old 08-31-2009, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by audisyr
Where the hell do u get that number?
Nissan, but I stand corrected. Your HR only has 6 more HP.

Old 08-31-2009, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by I DTW I
Dude, the Grand Touring's got everything...even the Brembos! And the model year means nothing.....Everybody thinks my car is a brand new '09 and I've got an '03 LOL!

Options like leather seats ect is something you'll be very glad you got in the long run. I don't see any point in getting an '08 unless they have the same options list...especially if the '06 is Grand Touring cuz that's got the fully loaded interior AND the track model additions (BREMBOS!)

Options > model year

yeah i love the options... but HR>DE.. lol
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Originally Posted by jekl1000
Nissan, but I stand corrected. Your HR only has 6 more HP.

wow.. i thoght all the de were same on Z ..guess not... thx for info
Old 08-31-2009, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Candy_G
Yeah! but not in hawaii.. dealer will ripped u up!!
Tony Nissan, in Waipahu, has two autos and two manuals priced at $32.2k and $30.7k, respectively. Those are sticker prices, and there is easy $1-2k of wiggle room. That would put either manual at less than $30k easily. Both are Platinum Graphite - I doubt they really need to hold onto both of them. All Nissan dealers pay invoice MINUS holdback (3% of invoice), so those cars cost the dealer about $27,900. I bet they'd happily take $29,400 - $29,900 given my experience with a lot of dealerships. You have to be prepared to sign the papers or walk away. I'd also go pre-approved or use the CUDL program if you have access to it, as dealers are able to add %age points to the loan if you go through them.
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Originally Posted by scotts300
Tony Nissan, in Waipahu, has two autos and two manuals priced at $32.2k and $30.7k, respectively. Those are sticker prices, and there is easy $1-2k of wiggle room. That would put either manual at less than $30k easily. Both are Platinum Graphite - I doubt they really need to hold onto both of them. All Nissan dealers pay invoice MINUS holdback (3% of invoice), so those cars cost the dealer about $27,900. I bet they'd happily take $29,400 - $29,900 given my experience with a lot of dealerships. You have to be prepared to sign the papers or walk away. I'd also go pre-approved or use the CUDL program if you have access to it, as dealers are able to add %age points to the loan if you go through them.
huh? r u @ hawaii? if ur looking at their webpage.. yeah they do put msrp on web ONLY..if u go to them they will do whatever they can do to jack up the price.. but i might check them out too..

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Old 09-01-2009, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by anyjuan
HR! I like the 370z but I don't think they changed it enough yet. I'm sure the next Z (400z???)redesign will be much different.

There won't be another Z. 370Z is the last of the family sadly.

Oh and the HR is a lot better than the DE Rev. Trust me it makes a difference. Buddy got a headstart, easily caught up and pulled on him.

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Old 09-01-2009, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Jhockey09
something wrong with revups besides oil consumption?
No he just reads too much. I'd buy the 06.
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Originally Posted by jekl1000
That is the same decision I had to make. I couldn't spend that kind of money on a poor mans version so I bought the Grand Touring. All it will take is one simple bolt on to make up the difference in the 7 HP the HR makes over the DE.
Um on a dyno its closer to 20 whp and the DE's are like 30-40 whp difference.
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Originally Posted by Elan
There won't be another Z. 370Z is the last of the family sadly.

Oh and the HR is a lot better than the DE Rev. Trust me it makes a difference. Buddy got a headstart, easily caught up and pulled on him.
Where did you find this info?
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^+1 yeah I've never heard of this before or why they would choose now to discontinue the 40 year line...
Old 09-01-2009, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Candy_G
huh? r u @ hawaii? if ur looking at their webpage.. yeah they do put msrp on web ONLY..if u go to them they will do whatever they can do to jack up the price.. but i might check them out too..
I'm not in Hawaii at the moment, but they can't make falsely advertise prices either. Even if you had to pay sticker, which is what's advertised, we're talking $30k. Destination fees are the same in HI as the continental US. In this economy, everything is negotiable - you should go there and kick the tires just to see.
Old 09-01-2009, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jekl1000
Nissan, but I stand corrected. Your HR only has 6 more HP.

didn't they change the way they read horse power in 2007? so by the old standard of horsepower reading i think the hr would be around 315-320ish hp.
i remember the STi's were rated at 300hp, but in 2007 they droped to a rating of 293 or something. they didnt actually go down in power, it was just the change in how horsepower was read.

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Old 09-01-2009, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Tayssti
didn't they change the way they read horse power in 2007? so by the old standard of horsepower reading i think the hr would be around 315-320ish hp.
i remember the STi's were rated at 300hp, but in 2007 they droped to a rating of 293 or something. they didnt actually go down in power, it was just the change in how horsepower was read.
Yes, they did.

03-05' Stock DE (non rev-up) cars make ~235-240rwhp
05'-06' Stock DE (rev-up) cars make ~240-245rwhp
07'-08' Stock HR cars make ~275rwhp

These figures are taken from the same dyno. The difference is clear between the DE and the HR.
Old 09-01-2009, 08:53 AM
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Wait what?? How do you know there won't be another Z past the 370??
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Originally Posted by scotts300
Yes, they did.

03-05' Stock DE (non rev-up) cars make ~235-240rwhp
05'-06' Stock DE (rev-up) cars make ~240-245rwhp
07'-08' Stock HR cars make ~275rwhp

These figures are taken from the same dyno. The difference is clear between the DE and the HR.
You sure 275 and not 265? Sounds a bit high. The E46 M3's make 275 wheel.
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Originally Posted by NoWin
You sure 275 and not 265? Sounds a bit high. The E46 M3's make 275 wheel.
I'm sure that this particular car made 275rwhp stock. Here is another at 269rwhp stock. Those are the only two baseline data points I quickly have access to for the HR on this dyno. In either event, the 6 HP quoted above and from Nissan can not be compared apples:apples.



which is not making 290rwhp: http://www.zcarblog.com/2009/02/12/p...o-results.html (dyno was too small in size to link directly)

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This dyno is also NOT known to be "run high". Truth-be-told, it's typically a little lower than others in the area. My Z32 dyno'd 5% more on another dyno with all things held equal. My Z33 made 260rwhp with a bunch of bolt-ons and tuning there.
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I can not argue dyno results because I have no experience with them. The only thing I know about dynos is that it seems like no two are the same and there is almost always a controversary around their results.

For me, the difference is small enough to not outweigh that buying a stripped down model. If all you are concerned with is power then buy a car with some real power. When all that separates the two cars is a quality bolt on, it aint much of a difference.

But it all comes down to personal preference and what you want out of a car. I haven't owned a car with cloth interior since I was in high school, I'm not about to start back now at 35.
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Originally Posted by jekl1000
I can not argue dyno results because I have no experience with them. The only thing I know about dynos is that it seems like no two are the same and there is almost always a controversary around their results.

For me, the difference is small enough to not outweigh that buying a stripped down model. If all you are concerned with is power then buy a car with some real power. When all that separates the two cars is a quality bolt on, it aint much of a difference.

But it all comes down to personal preference and what you want out of a car. I haven't owned a car with cloth interior since I was in high school, I'm not about to start back now at 35.
You are right, no two are the same. That's why I posted dynos from the same dyno with the same dyno operators. You are still talking about a real difference of 25rwhp, which you can not simply bolt on to a DE.
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Originally Posted by Jonny Boy
I would get the Grand Touring. I love the HR motors way more than the DE or Rev-up, but I would much rather have all the extras than the faster car. I love the brembos, the rays rims, and the bose sound system.
um, wait...

Did you say the "bose sound system"?
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Originally Posted by aRYip
um, wait...

Did you say the "bose sound system"?
LOL, yeah, I never included that in my arguement for a reason.


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