Which 3M bra...Invisiguard, StoneGard or Xpel?
Any opinions? StonGard claims the best patterns, I have heard lots of recommendations for Xpel and Krinkov of Invisigard is a member fo the forum.
Some members have recommended Envision Design in Torrance to me (close to me), do they do install on both Xpel and Invisiguard?
Advise please!
Some members have recommended Envision Design in Torrance to me (close to me), do they do install on both Xpel and Invisiguard?
Advise please!
Go with Jeremy (aka Krinkov) at Invisiguard. Period. No questions asked. He does great work, his crew has a great reputation and he uses the Xpel-based patterns.
As a consumer, I've installed Stongard, Invincashield and Xpel kits on my own vehicles. Invincashield is a bit more user friendly and less expensive. Unfortunately their 350Z kit has MULTIPLE pieces for the front bumper, instead of the one piece design that Xpel uses. As far as I know, nobody has posted information about the quality of the Stongard kit.
The single most important factor with the clear bra is the quality if the installer, not the kit.
Dean
As a consumer, I've installed Stongard, Invincashield and Xpel kits on my own vehicles. Invincashield is a bit more user friendly and less expensive. Unfortunately their 350Z kit has MULTIPLE pieces for the front bumper, instead of the one piece design that Xpel uses. As far as I know, nobody has posted information about the quality of the Stongard kit.
The single most important factor with the clear bra is the quality if the installer, not the kit.
Dean
Just make sure you know what you are getting, some lay on top and have edges all around that are visible, but some wrap the edges so you don't see much, the one I have has the hood wrapped so all you see is the back line.
just a question, has anyone thought of having the kit installed minus the hood so that the line issue would not come into play? It would seem that with the shape of the Z that the vast majority of the road abuse would taken by the bumper areas.....just a thought.
Originally posted by westpak
Just make sure you know what you are getting, some lay on top and have edges all around that are visible, but some wrap the edges so you don't see much, the one I have has the hood wrapped so all you see is the back line.
Just make sure you know what you are getting, some lay on top and have edges all around that are visible, but some wrap the edges so you don't see much, the one I have has the hood wrapped so all you see is the back line.
Originally posted by Zzyzx
Westpak which kit do you have?
Westpak which kit do you have?
The bottom line is make sure you are getting the installation you want and get someone that is knowledgeable and knows what he is doing because this car is not easy.
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Hey thanks Dean
But since your down in LA, Edre at Envisage Design Labs does excellent work and I would bet he has done more 350s than anyone in So cal. get a hold of him at edl@envisagedesignlabs.com
But since your down in LA, Edre at Envisage Design Labs does excellent work and I would bet he has done more 350s than anyone in So cal. get a hold of him at edl@envisagedesignlabs.com
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We install the 3m/Xpel based film kits here in CT. We've done almost 30 Z's to date and haven't had a complaint about a single one. Everyone was very specific with their cars to us, and we met their needs every step of the way.
Contact me at 860-513-1044 to book your appointment. Still have Group buy pricing in effect in the classifieds!
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Contact me at 860-513-1044 to book your appointment. Still have Group buy pricing in effect in the classifieds!
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So true, this is why I insist people have an authorized dealer install their film instead of doing the install themselves. If you don't know what your doing it will turn out terrible and you don't have a warranty on the product in most cases. If you have someone like us install it you get a 4 year warranty against anything happening to the film.
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Invinca-Shield has an excellent fitting kit for the 350Z not to mention one of the best prices around. The standard kit (hood and front fender pieces) is $171 while the deluxe kit is $408.
If any of you buy the kit online you can use discount code #ISBY4 to get an additional 20% off the total price of your purchase! Then get whomever you want to install the kit. You are right. A great kit looks like hell in the hands of an incapable installer. But a great fitting kit (at a great price) in the hands of a great installer is a win-win deal.
Invinca-Shield's deluxe kit should be installed in less than 3-4 hours by a capable professional. Don't let someone bilk you out of hundreds of dollars more. Even at $70 /hour for a top installer with 3-4 hours on your car, you shouldn't pay more than $280 for the install. That would put the total deluxe kit on your car for about $600.
Not only do we have a great fitting kit for this vehicle but we were one of the first to have it available. Check us out at www.invinca-shield.com
If any of you buy the kit online you can use discount code #ISBY4 to get an additional 20% off the total price of your purchase! Then get whomever you want to install the kit. You are right. A great kit looks like hell in the hands of an incapable installer. But a great fitting kit (at a great price) in the hands of a great installer is a win-win deal.
Invinca-Shield's deluxe kit should be installed in less than 3-4 hours by a capable professional. Don't let someone bilk you out of hundreds of dollars more. Even at $70 /hour for a top installer with 3-4 hours on your car, you shouldn't pay more than $280 for the install. That would put the total deluxe kit on your car for about $600.
Not only do we have a great fitting kit for this vehicle but we were one of the first to have it available. Check us out at www.invinca-shield.com
Originally posted by Invinca-ShieldMgr.
Not only do we have a great fitting kit for this vehicle but we were one of the first to have it available. Check us out at www.invinca-shield.com
Not only do we have a great fitting kit for this vehicle but we were one of the first to have it available. Check us out at www.invinca-shield.com
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First let me say that being the first to have a particular paint protection kit does still matter. It reflects a dedication or mindset to providing a higher level of service than all the rest of the wanna-be shield companies out there. When you guys in the marketplace were clammoring for a kit for the 350Z, we made it a point to go out and get the design before anyone else. Not a month after you were dinging up the fronts of your cars but then! True, after five months, the issue of who first designed the kit is of little importance to anyone except for us, or those of you who recognize that it is just one more reason why we are the leaders in the industry and not second best. We care......alot!
Dynashield? Wow! That's what happens when everyone and their brother sees a good product. Invinca-Shield, Xpel and Stongard were the three originals. We're flattered by all the wanna-be "shield" companies out there trying to be just like us. By the way, what kind of warranty did you get on your kit? How does it compare with Invinca-Shield's 5 year warranty and/or can you get warranty service coast to coast? Ask yourself the question, if the Dynashield guy decides to do something else for a living next month, do you still have a warranty?
Lastly, let's discuss the wrap around hood design that you claim is so good. The film adheres best on clean surfaces. I don't know what you have under your hood but I have dirt, oil and grease, not to mention high temperatures under mine. At Invinca-Shield we intentionally DO NOT WRAP AROUND AND UNDER HOODS because that area is most susceptible to poor adherence. And once the film releases from the under side of the hood, it is only a matter of time before it starts fraying between the hood and the body when you raise and lower the hood. I think after a few months of use you may want to recant your testimony, Cato.
There are many excellent installers of paint protection film across the U.S. and your Dynashield may be one of them. We don't know as we have never heard of them and we scout out our competition keenly. Let's just hope that, in this particular situation, like most others in life, it doesn't turn out to be a case of "you get what you pay for". All the above is obviously my humble opinion but think about it, much makes sense.
Dynashield? Wow! That's what happens when everyone and their brother sees a good product. Invinca-Shield, Xpel and Stongard were the three originals. We're flattered by all the wanna-be "shield" companies out there trying to be just like us. By the way, what kind of warranty did you get on your kit? How does it compare with Invinca-Shield's 5 year warranty and/or can you get warranty service coast to coast? Ask yourself the question, if the Dynashield guy decides to do something else for a living next month, do you still have a warranty?
Lastly, let's discuss the wrap around hood design that you claim is so good. The film adheres best on clean surfaces. I don't know what you have under your hood but I have dirt, oil and grease, not to mention high temperatures under mine. At Invinca-Shield we intentionally DO NOT WRAP AROUND AND UNDER HOODS because that area is most susceptible to poor adherence. And once the film releases from the under side of the hood, it is only a matter of time before it starts fraying between the hood and the body when you raise and lower the hood. I think after a few months of use you may want to recant your testimony, Cato.
There are many excellent installers of paint protection film across the U.S. and your Dynashield may be one of them. We don't know as we have never heard of them and we scout out our competition keenly. Let's just hope that, in this particular situation, like most others in life, it doesn't turn out to be a case of "you get what you pay for". All the above is obviously my humble opinion but think about it, much makes sense.
As for the quality of the dynashield prduct, I'll leave that to mike to take up, but when I was looking into your kit early on, it wasn't available, while krinkov was already selling the x-pel and I got the email back from your company saying it was 2 weeks after my dynashield was installed.
If you truly were first, you do a terrible job keeping potential customers informed. I kept my Z garaged almost a month awaiting a kit to come out.
If you truly were first, you do a terrible job keeping potential customers informed. I kept my Z garaged almost a month awaiting a kit to come out.
Originally posted by Invinca-ShieldMgr.
First let me say that being the first to have a particular paint protection kit does still matter. It reflects a dedication or mindset to providing a higher level of service than all the rest of the wanna-be shield companies out there. When you guys in the marketplace were clammoring for a kit for the 350Z, we made it a point to go out and get the design before anyone else. Not a month after you were dinging up the fronts of your cars but then! True, after five months, the issue of who first designed the kit is of little importance to anyone except for us, or those of you who recognize that it is just one more reason why we are the leaders in the industry and not second best. We care......alot!
First let me say that being the first to have a particular paint protection kit does still matter. It reflects a dedication or mindset to providing a higher level of service than all the rest of the wanna-be shield companies out there. When you guys in the marketplace were clammoring for a kit for the 350Z, we made it a point to go out and get the design before anyone else. Not a month after you were dinging up the fronts of your cars but then! True, after five months, the issue of who first designed the kit is of little importance to anyone except for us, or those of you who recognize that it is just one more reason why we are the leaders in the industry and not second best. We care......alot!
I believe my 350Z kit was ready before yours. It doesn't matter though. What does matter is bringing the first QUALITY kit to market. You sir, offer the WORST 350Z kit of any manufacturer.
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