I will never doubt the power of the clay bar treatment after today. Here's a couple pics.

 

Claybar is the shiznit my friend! Here's me doing my moms surburban, took me all dam day. Sad part is, she traded it in a month later, I was pissed!

 

Amen to that.....

https://my350z.com/forum/cleaning-and-detailing/202598-if-you-ve-ever-doubted-claybar-don-t-pics.html

 

I've never doubted it even though I have yet to try it. My car is definitely in need of a claybar treatment!

Looks good!

 

I am still not a clay bar convert. Would like to see someone conduct an experiment.

a. Wash and wax as usual.
b. Use clay bar

If the clay is dirty, then it works to remove dirt. If the clay is clean, then the wax has done its job. The clay is a waste of time.

 

Nothing beats a shiny black car...

 

Peterpit.... u should run your own business:

"WE CLAY... YOU PAY!!!"

 

clay bar is not a substitute for wax coat or sealant

the clay bar is used to remove industrial fall out, tar spots, dried bug spots etc prior to polishing/waxing. No wax, not even Zymol's $7K Royale, will prevent these particles from sticking to the paint. The clay bar will also remove most of the wax on the vehicle, leaving no protection afterwards - hence the need to polish/wax. You know your car needs a clay when after a wash you run hand against a panel and it feels rough or gritty

clay on a black car will leave minor marring on the paint. Whether the owner notices or not is dependant on how 'into' detailing they are, some may not ever see it or know how to look for it

so why use a clay bar when polish will do the same thing? well not quite. By removing those tar spots etc with the clay, it will allow the polish to slide over the paint more smoothly and work more evenly. Anything up to medium polish by hand application may not remove all contamination particles on the paint

 

I did a full wash and dry. I had the gritty feeling as described above and then did the clay bar treatment. After another wash and dry the car felt as if it had already been waxed. Yes it felt that smooth. Then I waxed using Gold Class. The difference between a wax after clay and just wax can be seen with the eyes IMO.

 

Claybar has NOTHING to do with wash and wax. Claybar removes contaminants from the surface of the paint. Wax makes your car shiny, it does nothing to remove contaminants, in fact it only covers them.

 

I considered claying my car, but my car paint feels smooth after a car wash...so I will probably pass on the claying for now.

 

depending on the color (read anything but solid black) you have nothing to lose but everything to gain by claying the car. Albeit an hour of your time

best claybar ive used it the BlueMagic clay bar. The Zaino clay bars are quite good too, and i think theyve brought out a new improved bar now

 

Don't know what to tell you david, but claying really does smoothe out the surface.

I've used clay directly over a coat of wax and it still removed contaminants and improved surface smoothness. There's really no substitute. It preps the surface for other treatments.

Just do a side by side comparison. Clay on 1/2 of the hood, then wax. No clay on the other 1/2 of the hood, and wax that side as well.

The side with the clay will be smoother to the touch, and the wax will go on much easier... I'm a little surprised hearing a post like this from you. I've used clay about 6 times now on various cars, and it greatly, greatly, greatly improves the surface in preparation for wax.

Buy the meguiar's brand clay, you can try it on a small section of the car, and if you don't like it, you can call their customer service line and they will buy it back from you.

 

Not only did the wax go on eaiser, but came off much easier too. The 20-30 minutes spent claying the car is made up during the waxing.

 

i think a true comparison is :
Polish with D/A Polisher
Vs.
Clay bar
not wax vs. claybar

 

If you look at the thread I linked to at the top of this thread, you'll see claybar that went from snow white to coffee brown after just a single section of the roof on my Viper. The car was washed with a good detergent prior to claying, and no wax would ever have removed those contaminants. There is no substitute for clay to remove contaminants from healthy paint. If you have oxidation and such, a chemical abrasive might be required to actually knock off a small amount of clear-coat (kind of like exfoliating human skin). Clay can't do that.

 

try it on your windshield also,you wont believe what comes off the glass.

 

+1 for claybar!

i tried it last week and wow! makes a huge difference. The paint is soo smooth!

 

lookn fly!

 

wtf.... claybar removes wax!? Isn't that bad, I know you can put wax over it, but thats just extra work.