My arms hurt!!!
Ok, so I did the clay-bar / Zaino thing today in the following order:
Dawn
Clay-bar/Z-7 lube
Z-7
Z-2 / ZFX
Z-2 / ZFX
(I know, don't flame me for no Z-6 between steps....It's on order, I just couldn't wait) ;-)
I've only had the car for a couple of weeks now, but the amount of crud that came off into the clay-bar was amazing.
The car looks pretty darn good, but I was applying the Zaino in the garage (and after dark by the time I got the second coat on), and I was working with a flourescent shop light, and that damn thing shows you every little imperfection on the car.
My impression of the paint-job overall is that for a 35K car, it's really not up to par. There are some weird faded spots under the clear coat on the right front fender, and the back bumper looks like they tried to buff out some orange peel, but didn't get it smoothed all the way down, so now there are hundreds of "half-buffed" looking spots about the size of a BB all over the bumper, very visible when viewed at the right angle just below the hatch-lid. Don't get me wrong, the car looks great (I'll post pics tomorrow when I can get it in the sunlight), I just think that it's got alot of flaws for a brand-new car. Anyone else find this to be true too?
Maybe some of the folks at the East coast Z meet can take a look at it and tell me what they think.
Dawn
Clay-bar/Z-7 lube
Z-7
Z-2 / ZFX
Z-2 / ZFX
(I know, don't flame me for no Z-6 between steps....It's on order, I just couldn't wait) ;-)
I've only had the car for a couple of weeks now, but the amount of crud that came off into the clay-bar was amazing.
The car looks pretty darn good, but I was applying the Zaino in the garage (and after dark by the time I got the second coat on), and I was working with a flourescent shop light, and that damn thing shows you every little imperfection on the car.
My impression of the paint-job overall is that for a 35K car, it's really not up to par. There are some weird faded spots under the clear coat on the right front fender, and the back bumper looks like they tried to buff out some orange peel, but didn't get it smoothed all the way down, so now there are hundreds of "half-buffed" looking spots about the size of a BB all over the bumper, very visible when viewed at the right angle just below the hatch-lid. Don't get me wrong, the car looks great (I'll post pics tomorrow when I can get it in the sunlight), I just think that it's got alot of flaws for a brand-new car. Anyone else find this to be true too?
Maybe some of the folks at the East coast Z meet can take a look at it and tell me what they think.
Since your car is new, I wonder if the faded spots are similar to what I had. When I picked my car up, I had a quarter sized light spot on the hood, and a light streak on the fender. Since I'd just gone several states away to pick the car up on a Sunday, I took the car after the saleman told me they often saw that and that it was paint that still hadn't completely cured and seemed to be worse in the cold. He assured me that with a heat gun, he could make it go away, but we didn't have access to one. I made him write it on the sales contract, and drove the 6 hours home.
Sure enough, the engine heat of the long drive had gotten rid of the hood spot, and the fender streak went away with a heat gun.
Yours might be something different, I don't know. Worth a shot, though. I wish I'd had a camera to take a pic of what mine looked like.
Sure enough, the engine heat of the long drive had gotten rid of the hood spot, and the fender streak went away with a heat gun.
Yours might be something different, I don't know. Worth a shot, though. I wish I'd had a camera to take a pic of what mine looked like.
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One last picture showing the imperfections on the rear bumper..... :-(
Note the "freckles" in the sunshine on the bumper. This looks like poorly buffed orange peel, or almost like improperly laid fiberglass, where the fiber was painted over and not smooth...Not sure what this is or what caused it. This existed before the clay bar/Zaino.
Note the "freckles" in the sunshine on the bumper. This looks like poorly buffed orange peel, or almost like improperly laid fiberglass, where the fiber was painted over and not smooth...Not sure what this is or what caused it. This existed before the clay bar/Zaino.
Originally posted by dgtlbullet
Do the Z-7 and call us in the morning. The z-7 brings out more of the wet look and does wonders.
Do the Z-7 and call us in the morning. The z-7 brings out more of the wet look and does wonders.
TCL,
You're right, the Zaino didn't help the bumper....Do you all think that what I've described warrants a trip back to the dealership to express my concerns given that I've had the car for a couple of weeks now?
You're right, the Zaino didn't help the bumper....Do you all think that what I've described warrants a trip back to the dealership to express my concerns given that I've had the car for a couple of weeks now?
Originally posted by dgtlbullet
Do the Z-7 and call us in the morning. The z-7 brings out more of the wet look and does wonders.
Do the Z-7 and call us in the morning. The z-7 brings out more of the wet look and does wonders.
Originally posted by kcobean
TCL,
You're right, the Zaino didn't help the bumper....Do you all think that what I've described warrants a trip back to the dealership to express my concerns given that I've had the car for a couple of weeks now?
TCL,
You're right, the Zaino didn't help the bumper....Do you all think that what I've described warrants a trip back to the dealership to express my concerns given that I've had the car for a couple of weeks now?
Yeah, I kind of wonder if it's worth the trouble. The problem is that as far as I can tell, no amount of Zaino is going to help. The imperfection looks to be in the paint (possibly under the clear coat). I might ask them about it next time I'm in there, but I'm not going to push the issue too much....Thanks for the input.
Originally posted by kcobean
Yeah, I kind of wonder if it's worth the trouble. The problem is that as far as I can tell, no amount of Zaino is going to help. The imperfection looks to be in the paint (possibly under the clear coat). I might ask them about it next time I'm in there, but I'm not going to push the issue too much....Thanks for the input.
Yeah, I kind of wonder if it's worth the trouble. The problem is that as far as I can tell, no amount of Zaino is going to help. The imperfection looks to be in the paint (possibly under the clear coat). I might ask them about it next time I'm in there, but I'm not going to push the issue too much....Thanks for the input.
Originally posted by kcobean
Yeah, I kind of wonder if it's worth the trouble. The problem is that as far as I can tell, no amount of Zaino is going to help. The imperfection looks to be in the paint (possibly under the clear coat). I might ask them about it next time I'm in there, but I'm not going to push the issue too much....Thanks for the input.
Yeah, I kind of wonder if it's worth the trouble. The problem is that as far as I can tell, no amount of Zaino is going to help. The imperfection looks to be in the paint (possibly under the clear coat). I might ask them about it next time I'm in there, but I'm not going to push the issue too much....Thanks for the input.
Originally posted by zpeed350
Sweet Redline! Can't wait to get mine out of the garage after the winter and get some Zaino on it. When you were talking about faded spots, you talking about something like this. This one is over my driver side rear fender
Sweet Redline! Can't wait to get mine out of the garage after the winter and get some Zaino on it. When you were talking about faded spots, you talking about something like this. This one is over my driver side rear fender
That looks just about like what my DB had on the hood that went away. If your car isn't new, though, it is probably a different type of flaw.
Originally posted by MannishBoy
Have you tried a heat gun on that? How old is your car?
That looks just about like what my DB had on the hood that went away. If your car isn't new, though, it is probably a different type of flaw.
Have you tried a heat gun on that? How old is your car?
That looks just about like what my DB had on the hood that went away. If your car isn't new, though, it is probably a different type of flaw.
I really don't know what to do to fix it, if there is even anything I can do....sorry don't mean to "thread jack".
Last edited by zpeed350; Feb 26, 2004 at 06:19 AM.




