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Old May 27, 2004 | 11:30 AM
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Question Teflon Car Wax

Just saw an ad on TV featuring DuPont teflon car wax. I'm not sure if this is a new product. Just wondering if anyone has tried it.
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Old May 27, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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There have been several discussions on this board on the use of Teflon in car polish. I don't know how good this product is, but Teflon has no value in car polish. In order for Teflon to have any protective properties, it must be bonded to the paint. To do this requires VERY high temperatures (in the hundreds of degrees). So unless you apply this stuff and then hit it with an acetylene torch, it isn't going to do anything.
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Old May 27, 2004 | 01:13 PM
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I guess that settles that. Thanks, Bob
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Old May 27, 2004 | 01:59 PM
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On a side note, Dupont is not making any of the new line of Dupont Teflon car wax (Jeff Gordon is however pushing it) , what happend was Dupont sold the name Teflon which they own to Tenneaco automotive I believe and they are the company making the wax. Teflon is bunk in a car wax however, but good on pans, LOL......
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Old May 27, 2004 | 06:42 PM
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I use Blue Coral car wash gel with teflon. It is the best car wash I have ever used. The teflon causes the water to bead up like crazy. I'm assuming its the teflon that causes the beading action. Normal Blue Coral car wash concentrate from Walmart is no comparison.
I don't know why they discontinued it, but I bought 2 cases of the stuff when I found out they were discontinuing it.
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Old May 27, 2004 | 10:33 PM
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reread the thread. its most likely got a water soluble wax additive in it. as teflon CANNOT work in this situation.

problem with water soluble waxes is that uhhh it water soluble lol. it has no lifespan, it comes off with the first rain.
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Old May 28, 2004 | 04:56 PM
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Yep. The Teflon has NO VALUE WHATSOEVER in detailing products. ESPECIALLY in a carwash!

Well, let me qualify that. The only value Teflon has is that it gets people to buy a product thinking that it will protect their paint like a coated cooking skillet.
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Old May 28, 2004 | 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by OP Z
The teflon causes the water to bead up like crazy.
To OP Z: If you have read the posts just above this one and are still not convinced, try this: Get a rag, put some kerosene on the rag. Wipe the rag over your car, spreading the kerosene evenly over the paint. Spray water over the car. I bet it beads up like crazy, doesn't it? Do you think the kerosene is protecting your paint?

As was stated before, teflon must be bonded on at high temperatures in order to work as we understand teflon to work. This is according to technical papers published by 3M, the patent-holder of teflon. If a car-care product is advertising that it contains teflon, that automatically disqualifies it as a serious car-detailing product; it has no credibility whatsoever.

Closeup of a raindrop that landed on a freshly-Zaino'ed surface:

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Old May 28, 2004 | 07:34 PM
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gorgeous pic. I wish I had a car worth putting Zaino on.
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Old May 28, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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Look at all those micro water beads around it!

Haha.
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Old May 29, 2004 | 03:02 AM
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I never claimed the teflon was bonded to the paint or protected it. All I meant was that water beads like crazy with the teflon car wash and gave the car a very nice shine.
I never waxed my previous car. It looked great with the car wash alone.
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Old May 29, 2004 | 05:04 PM
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And look what happens when a WHOLE BUNCH of water falls on a Zaino-ed car!
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Old May 30, 2004 | 12:03 AM
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You guys DO know that when water beads, it creates a lens that magnifies sunlight, and therefore burns a little hole in the paint? It takes years to notice but it happens. The best products should make the water run off and not bead. You also won't need to dry the car to prevent water spots.

All said. I'm still looking for a product that gives a deep shine, lasts a long time, yet doesn't bead.
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Old May 30, 2004 | 05:15 AM
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Not if you have Zaino underneath the beads my friend.

You are of course talking about "sheeting". Sheeting is simply beading on a larger scale. It has to do with surface tension of water on a slick surface.

Zaino will protect your paint from UV, acid rain, bugs, tar, paint overspray, bird droppings etc.

Nothing protects like Zaino.

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Old May 30, 2004 | 06:58 AM
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Originally posted by overlord tom
You guys DO know that when water beads, it creates a lens that magnifies sunlight, and therefore burns a little hole in the paint? It takes years to notice but it happens. The best products should make the water run off and not bead. You also won't need to dry the car to prevent water spots.
The beads don't stay on the car long enough for the sun to do any damage. The water blade takes care of that!

I don't think there is or ever will be a product that makes water sheet so well that you don't have to dry the car to prevent water spots.

I don't take my car to car washes, but I understand that some of the newer ones offer a choice of distilled water for the final rinse, to avoid water spots. Now THAT's a good idea!

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