New MRC APS Stock Block RECORD- 11.60 @119.13!!!
Originally Posted by one3502nv
The funny part is that my car is not really "setup" for drag racing... I obviously use decent tires and I have a Nismo LSD but I also have it lowered with very stiff Eibachs.... There is almost no weight transfer... Plus I am running my 19's on the front.... If I really wanted to get better times, I could change my springs, and move alot of the weight in the front to the rear... Also, light skinnies on the front would also help.... And I didn't even remove my 80lb sub box from the car.... I may try swapping gears from an auto since first gear is useless... I hit the rev limiter in first almost everytime I have a good launch....
my car is not setup for drag racing either-at all...too much torque and hp to grip- kind of annoying when messing around on the street, i can't try too hard in first and second--its pointless, i'll just lose traction, third gear starts to hook up, but then again, i can rip through that gear if i give it too much gas---at fourth gear though--- no one really stands much of a chance--they can have a 5 car length lead on me and i'll catch em in 4th---ideally, i'd like to only push 7psi in 1st, 8psi in second, 9psi in third, then 16 in 4th on up...that would be sweet
Originally Posted by 350zDCalb
my car is not setup for drag racing either-at all...too much torque and hp to grip- kind of annoying when messing around on the street, i can't try too hard in first and second--its pointless, i'll just lose traction, third gear starts to hook up, but then again, i can rip through that gear if i give it too much gas---at fourth gear though--- no one really stands much of a chance--they can have a 5 car length lead on me and i'll catch em in 4th---ideally, i'd like to only push 7psi in 1st, 8psi in second, 9psi in third, then 16 in 4th on up...that would be sweet
Originally Posted by one3502nv
thats actually what i will be doing soon... Either the apexi or blitz boost controller that have gear dependant boost settings... then you can do exactly that....
Here's my question:
How do supercars like the Pagani Zonda or the Ferrari Enzo manage to get such good 0-60/1/4 times...although they are primarily engineered for the track at high speeds? They are obviously not setup for drag racing AT ALL.
I'm assuming it has to be alot to do with chassisdesign/weight distribution, considering you can pretty much put any suspension you want on any car.
How do supercars like the Pagani Zonda or the Ferrari Enzo manage to get such good 0-60/1/4 times...although they are primarily engineered for the track at high speeds? They are obviously not setup for drag racing AT ALL.
I'm assuming it has to be alot to do with chassisdesign/weight distribution, considering you can pretty much put any suspension you want on any car.
Originally Posted by phile
Here's my question:
How do supercars like the Pagani Zonda or the Ferrari Enzo manage to get such good 0-60/1/4 times...although they are primarily engineered for the track at high speeds? They are obviously not setup for drag racing AT ALL.
I'm assuming it has to be alot to do with chassisdesign/weight distribution, considering you can pretty much put any suspension you want on any car.
How do supercars like the Pagani Zonda or the Ferrari Enzo manage to get such good 0-60/1/4 times...although they are primarily engineered for the track at high speeds? They are obviously not setup for drag racing AT ALL.
I'm assuming it has to be alot to do with chassisdesign/weight distribution, considering you can pretty much put any suspension you want on any car.
we are dealing with a car here (z) that was designed for 287 flywheel hp, has an ecu that is designed to accomodate this, and then doubling the power and telling the ecu "it's ok, don't have a heart attack"
Originally Posted by 350zDCalb
they are probably controlled by complex ecu's that are designed to manage that power level...
we are dealing with a car here (z) that was designed for 287 flywheel hp, has an ecu that is designed to accomodate this, and then doubling the power and telling the ecu "it's ok, don't have a heart attack"
we are dealing with a car here (z) that was designed for 287 flywheel hp, has an ecu that is designed to accomodate this, and then doubling the power and telling the ecu "it's ok, don't have a heart attack"
For the most part, if you want to drag race your car, you have to set it up completely different than if you want to track your car. Complete opposite suspension setups, weight transfer, etc.
That's why I was thinking to myself, how the hell do these super cars manage both? What sort of suspension trickery could they be using :P I think they are quite obviously more designed with the track in mind, but they also put down amazing 1/4mile numbers. I guess another thing to consider is that they prolly produce a ridiculous amount of downforce, which helps the car get more grip. Yet another characteristic that probably keeps 1/4 times low. who knows..
Originally Posted by 350zDCalb
does that completely replace the e-01? i assume i can still use the e-01 for e-manage tuning/whatnot...has anyone used this setup before?
Originally Posted by one3502nv
I don't know much about the e-01 since I run the unichip piggyback.... but basically most piggybacks are open loop boost controllers which aren't that great anyway.... With the apexi or blitz controllers, they are closed loop controllers and allow u to program up to 4 maps... Basically we intend to tune the unichip to the max we will ever want to run and then create 4 detuned maps with the boost controller... I'm sure you could do the same with the Greddy e-01.... Just FYI, the boost controllers run $400-650 and then you have to install and dyno-tune all your maps....Total cost over 1k!!
Well I frequent is300.net since I use to have one and still have freinds over there. Well I found the video of your run and the crash. Really scary!
http://www.netphase.org/webimages/So...TurboIS300.wmv
Here's the thread:
http://is300.net/forums/showthread.php?t=254176
http://www.netphase.org/webimages/So...TurboIS300.wmv
Here's the thread:
http://is300.net/forums/showthread.php?t=254176
Last edited by 350Mark; May 28, 2005 at 03:27 PM.
DAMM!!!!!!!! I didn't know he was that close to hitting me... I didn't even see him in my rear view until after I finished.. Good thing I had a good run that race or it would of been a scary situation for me... I was probably only a sec or two ahead of him... I will probably steal your link and start a new thread.... Thanks for finding it..... I think its time I install my roll cage and harness....
Originally Posted by phile
Here's my question:
How do supercars like the Pagani Zonda or the Ferrari Enzo manage to get such good 0-60/1/4 times...although they are primarily engineered for the track at high speeds? They are obviously not setup for drag racing AT ALL.
I'm assuming it has to be alot to do with chassisdesign/weight distribution, considering you can pretty much put any suspension you want on any car.
How do supercars like the Pagani Zonda or the Ferrari Enzo manage to get such good 0-60/1/4 times...although they are primarily engineered for the track at high speeds? They are obviously not setup for drag racing AT ALL.
I'm assuming it has to be alot to do with chassisdesign/weight distribution, considering you can pretty much put any suspension you want on any car.
those cars have very conservative gear ratios
that's why they can do 0-60 in 3.5-3.8 sec because they don't have to shift into 2nd gear until like 60-65mph
Also they usually have the engine over the rear tires so you get natural weight pushing the rear tires down and that helps traction with that much hp. Then also, those cars often have more conservative final drives.
I think a lot of guys with FI Z's are crazy that use stock tires or maybe even 275 tires, the stock 3.5 final drive, the Z's transmission is brutally aggressive as far as how it's gearing is set up. No aftermarket LSD, and to be running like 600hp on it is just asking for no traction
Originally Posted by sentry65
those cars have very conservative gear ratios
that's why they can do 0-60 in 3.5-3.8 sec because they don't have to shift into 2nd gear until like 60-65mph
Also they usually have the engine over the rear tires so you get natural weight pushing the rear tires down and that helps traction with that much hp. Then also, those cars often have more conservative final drives.
I think a lot of guys with FI Z's are crazy that use stock tires or maybe even 275 tires, the stock 3.5 final drive, the Z's transmission is brutally aggressive as far as how it's gearing is set up. No aftermarket LSD, and to be running like 600hp on it is just asking for no traction
that's why they can do 0-60 in 3.5-3.8 sec because they don't have to shift into 2nd gear until like 60-65mph
Also they usually have the engine over the rear tires so you get natural weight pushing the rear tires down and that helps traction with that much hp. Then also, those cars often have more conservative final drives.
I think a lot of guys with FI Z's are crazy that use stock tires or maybe even 275 tires, the stock 3.5 final drive, the Z's transmission is brutally aggressive as far as how it's gearing is set up. No aftermarket LSD, and to be running like 600hp on it is just asking for no traction
I remember FLYBY Z said that when he went FI he would prefer longer gearing. I remember him trying to trade the FD from his manual to a FD from the auto. I've come to the conclusion that i'm not going to mod the Z. I might do a few exterior mods, but other than that, nothing else. It's too costly. I'd rather just go buy a Vette, or a Lotus or something.
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