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Old 09-12-2005 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by VeeTec
I think its very possible to go high 12's N/A.

I ran 13.6's stock at Steele, and since have done only two mods, which brought me just below my best stock time at south Georgia Motorsports Park, which has not been a good track for times, while the weather was at least 40 degrees warmer, or I should say hotter, with around a 100 degree track temp, and 15 mph headwind.

I am hoping for a 13.3 or so at Steele once the weather cools, with just the two bolt ons I have, and after that I will see if I can get to high 12's with a few more changes, n/a.
Good luck on getting there at Steele. That is where I ran my 14.1 n/a with a sh!tload of bolt-ons and also where I ran my 13.437 with the Vortech.
Old 09-12-2005 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by zachcrosen
Good luck on getting there at Steele. That is where I ran my 14.1 n/a with a sh!tload of bolt-ons and also where I ran my 13.437 with the Vortech.
Well he just said ran 13.6 stock there, so I guess you need to learn how to drive
Old 09-12-2005 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Well he just said ran 13.6 stock there, so I guess you need to learn how to drive
I mean, I read that comment about his times to some of my friends and they felt that it was driving. But launching a 5AT car is pretty much easy. It doesn't take much and it may be the fact that Z's come from the factory with such a wide range of power....
Old 09-12-2005 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Well he just said ran 13.6 stock there, so I guess you need to learn how to drive
Please enlighten me on how I can become a better driver of a 5AT! Because I have not run about 20 runs at the drag strip or anything. And done a whole season of AutoX with my car. And can run better times in my car than anyone else can even with the "good drivers" who can run a EVO in the mid 12s!

Oh and for the luv of god, its an automatic. There is not a lot of skill required to drive it. You just put it in gear and go, sorta. If I launch above about 2500 RPMS I will spin and thus have slower times. So please tell ME how I can become as good of a driver as you Mr. Expert!

I do think that there is, as DomZ said, a wide range of powere #s coming from the same motor which will give diff times regardless of driver. I have seen 5AT Zs with very similar mods as I had while n/a put down anywhere from 232RWHP(in my case) all the way up to mid 250s or more. I have also seen 5AT Zs with the Vortech and similar mods as me put down over 45 more RWHP!

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Old 09-12-2005 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by zachcrosen
Please enlighten me on how I can become a better driver of a 5AT! Because I have not run about 20 runs at the drag strip or anything. And done a whole season of AutoX with my car. And can run better times in my car than anyone else can even with the "good drivers" who can run a EVO in the mid 12s!

Oh and for the luv of god, its an automatic. There is not a lot of skill required to drive it. You just put it in gear and go, sorta. If I launch above about 2500 RPMS I will spin and thus have slower times. So please tell ME how I can become as good of a driver as you Mr. Expert!

I do think that there is, as DomZ said, a wide range of powere #s coming from the same motor which will give diff times regardless of driver. I have seen 5AT Zs with very similar mods as I had while n/a put down anywhere from 232RWHP(in my case) all the way up to mid 250s or more. I have also seen 5AT Zs with the Vortech and similar mods as me put down over 45 more RWHP!
Hey man shift points and lauch technique can make a difference even in an auto. The dyno variance is due to how dyno shops usually get weird TQ numbers when the converter locks up, AT dynos will always have a greater variance than Mt dyno's. My buddy had a sportshift prelude, once he learned his OPTIMAL shift points alone he dropped .3 seconds so dont act like you cant improve. I find it hard to believe Dom's stock Z is .5 faster than your auto Z when it was modded-VQ35's dont have a wide factory hp output imo. If that guy above ran 13.6 in a 6mt at your track you should have no problem breaking 13's stock, 14.1 with "a $hitload" of mods is just bad. Maybe you went on some hot a$$ days or something....anyways dont get your panties in a bunch, take some constructive criticism and go practice more.

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Old 09-12-2005 | 07:28 PM
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Well, here's my take on it. If you're leaving it in D, you're robbing yourself of at least one tenth off your time. That extra few hundred RPMs means multiple miles per hour, even if fuel cut is 6600...its better to run in a better gear with a little less power all the way to redline. Granted, I dyno'd 225whp on a Mustang dyno STOCK as you did a modded 223, but a SUPERCHARGER should make up for that.

If you're spinning from a 2500 launch...maybe you should stop launching at 2500 or get some tire on the back. Don't let your runs go up in smoke, borrow one of your Mustang buddy's slicks and practice your launch. I have a TOTAL of 20 passes at the track in ANY car and I can launch my car like none other on the street or the track. Use the fact that you have an auto to your advantage, 90% of 6MT drivers will either bog or spin and you have the ability to launch almost perfect every time with some practice. Make your $6000 count, practice.
Old 09-13-2005 | 09:04 AM
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Steele has been consistently the quickest track I have raced on, so my best shot will be at Steele.
Old 09-14-2005 | 01:20 PM
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Well guys i hate to break it to you but with my mods listed i ran a 10.477@144.89 at the track, o wait maybe that was when i punched it down my big a$$ hill i always forget. No thats right ive never been to the track in my car i guess i just made those numbers up too.

Idiocy aside, you guys have some nice numbers on your semi modded NA Z's, and i find it hard to believe that a semi modded NA Z with exhaust headers FW Clutch and cams can hit 12's on non slicks because if this is the case then all these turbo companies have done a horrible job being that ive rarely seen any 11's on this site maybe more are popping up now that i dont know of but come on. I have the 6MT and im not the best driver but i can still punch my car, its quick but it aint a supercar so lets be serious. Dom posted his times, why cant this kid whos under protest post his, i have an idea as to why, maybe im worng but if you want to prove a point being able to see the time sheet is the best way to do it.

Esp. because unless he removed all the plastics, extra metal, pass. seat etc he didnt lose any weight on the car and HP to Weight ratio isnt looking to accurate for his times. Just my $0.02 but then again who the hell am I.

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Old 09-15-2005 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by zachcrosen
Please enlighten me on how I can become a better driver of a 5AT! Because I have not run about 20 runs at the drag strip or anything. And done a whole season of AutoX with my car. And can run better times in my car than anyone else can even with the "good drivers" who can run a EVO in the mid 12s!

Oh and for the luv of god, its an automatic. There is not a lot of skill required to drive it. You just put it in gear and go, sorta. If I launch above about 2500 RPMS I will spin and thus have slower times. So please tell ME how I can become as good of a driver as you Mr. Expert!

I do think that there is, as DomZ said, a wide range of powere #s coming from the same motor which will give diff times regardless of driver. I have seen 5AT Zs with very similar mods as I had while n/a put down anywhere from 232RWHP(in my case) all the way up to mid 250s or more. I have also seen 5AT Zs with the Vortech and similar mods as me put down over 45 more RWHP!

Tuning!!!
Old 09-19-2005 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by zachcrosen
I hate to be skeptical, but I wont believe it until I see it with my own eyes. I say that because I have the Vortech SC, headers, dual exhaust, intake manifold and am still not running in the 12s myself! If he is in fact running 12s, someone needs to get a vid of a 12 sec run and post it up here. Then maybe we will believe that there is a 12 sec n/a Z. Until then, I have to call BS. When I was n/a, I had headers, test pipes, dual exhaust, Kinetix plenum and a popcharger and was ONLY running 14.1s. Granted, I have a 5AT, but its not going to be a full 1.3 seconds slower IMHO.
that is funny, SR20DEN who has a 2k2 maxima runs 12.8@108 all na.

I have a 96 max and run 13.35@103.75 NA.

Iam sorry but some of you people think you can drive and you cant

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Old 09-27-2005 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
We have the 2 fastest NA Z's that we know of, dont feed us that.
Alberto, you forgetting me?? I feel so left out....

That run with a 1.9 60ft is tough to believe but who knows. Without a timeslip i guess we'll never know. Let's see a timeslip!! If it's valid, congrats to him.
Old 09-27-2005 | 01:24 PM
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stillen Sc 307 RWHP. 5 AT all the mod except torque converter, slicks or ecu flash. 13.18 @ 108.1 (275 /35/ 19 ) toyos.
2.005 60 ft times. ( change pumpkin to 6 mt) gave me 3 th's and more punch.

With the above future mods added it may go 12.3 on a good day.
Where does this guy live i would like to take him on at the track. This guy has more done to his car or he is the king of the 1/4 mile.
Old 09-27-2005 | 01:49 PM
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the guy in question lives out of the US, i believe its in south america where he lives.
I sent one email to him and he sent me back a reply saing he was all motor and so forth.
Anyone else can email him by going to his page on dragtimes.com and hitting his email link.
Old 09-27-2005 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sfarrah
Alberto, you forgetting me?? I feel so left out....

That run with a 1.9 60ft is tough to believe but who knows. Without a timeslip i guess we'll never know. Let's see a timeslip!! If it's valid, congrats to him.
Lol, no I meant in MD we have the 2 fastest NA Z's, maybe the east coast. You are the one that inspired me to shoot for 12's NA
Old 09-28-2005 | 03:53 PM
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Same here, if it wasnt for Sfarrah, i dont think i would have gotten 12.7 or even tried.
Old 09-29-2005 | 04:01 PM
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Thanks fellas, appreciate the kind words. I've got no major mods planned right now so who knows how fast i'll run this winter. I did pick up a new 5zigen miracle fireball exhaust from spl parts last night though so i'll be testing that out soon.
Old 10-22-2005 | 12:56 PM
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I'm kinda surprised that the Z doesn't make more power NA.

Does anyone really do much with heads and these cars?
Old 10-23-2005 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by silverTA 2002
I'm kinda surprised that the Z doesn't make more power NA.

Does anyone really do much with heads and these cars?
There are a few guys with 300rwhp or so Dynojet #'s. Ive heard of a guy with 280rwhp iirc running 13.3 @ 106 on DR's horrible times for having tires for dragging and so much power. I run faster times and trap slightly higher with a measly 262 rwhp.
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