hey i was on www.dragtimes.com and i saw this one car driven by "palacios" and it dosnt seem realistic. He ran a 12.8 @ 107.5 mph on street tires in his naturally aspirated Z. Now i ran a 12.7 on my slicks but the numbers add up when you see my 60 ft time and 1/8 mile time.
Does anyone else know this guy or have heard of him and know if he has a supercharger or what not, or is this guy stretching the truth a little on this?

http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissan-350Z-Timeslip-5220.html

 

LMAO-yeah right 12.8 with a 1.95 60ft? BS! Best I have done with a crappy launch like that has been a 13.1 @ 107, and I doubt ANYBODY is outshifting me by .3......dont worry Bobby, your still #1 NA Z Plus we know that site is full of liars. Thats the site you told me about that my info was up on, and I never even posted anything there. Funny thing is whoever added my times where 100% accurate but they screwed up on the date, when I went to edit it, somebody had password blocked my info

 

Not to say it's not true, but it could be possible with some serious NA mods.

 

On dot tires though?

 

I don't think its possible on street tires. I'm going for some kind of NA Auto record (anyone have a clue what it is). I swore to myself I wasn't going to go nuts modding this car, I was just gonna buy a 300ZX TT to toy with, but the track got me excited for various drivetrain mods.

 

He only listed a pop-charger, crappy borla headers, borls exhaust a cp, and an ecu. Far from serious. No way with a 60ft like that will he go 12.8...unless he has some serious weight reduction, even then it would be difficult.

 

appparently you guys missed the part about the jim wolf cam
looks pretty serious to me:


Engine: 3.5 L
Turbos: n/a
Supercharger: n/a
Boost Control: n/a
Boost Pressure (psi): n/a
Intercooler: n/a
Nitrous System: n/a
Nitrous Shot: n/a
Pistons (rotors): n/a
Port: n/a
Rings (seals): n/a
Heads: n/a
Connecting Rods: n/a
Camshaft: jimwolf
Intake: aem
Headers (downpipe): borla
Midpipe:
borla
Exhaust: borla
Carburetor:
Computer: tecno square
Ignition: n/a
Spark Plugs: stock
Gas: 93 shell
Pulley: unorthodox
Transmission: stock
Clutch/Torq Conv: jim wolf
Flywheel: jim wolf
Shifter: n/a
Gears: n/a
Wheels: 17
Brake Rotors/Pads:
Tires: bf goodrich street
Track

 

ive gone 1.9 on street tires and im FWD,auto,and 200lbs plus heavier,oh and did i mention open dif...i have a friend who has a previous gen M roadster and he's gone 1.7 on streets...i realize its a different car but trust me the Z is capable of 1.8 on street tires with the right set up....the first two things id do if i were setting this car up to launch would be; get an adjustable camber kit and set it to as much possitive camber as possible, and remove/disconnect the front sway....oh ya light weight wheels like the SSR competition would be good no larger than 17

 

Bobby who runs 12.7 with a crazy 1.5 60ft runs 12.9 with a 1.7 60ft. No way is this guy going so deep into the 12's with a crappy 1.9 60ft. Even with cams he outtraps me by only .5mph, and hes beating me by .3 down the 1/4 with the same launch and basically same trap?? No way, unless he has serious weight reduction.

 

no i dont own a Z nor have i taken one down the track...but i have been down the track a few hundred times in my car and i know this...air can make a huge difference ,especially in low end torque the guy also has fly wheel and clutch,17's ect...dont be so defensive just go out and out do him...the difference between 13.1 and 12.8 for you is just some perfect weather away

 

Lol, I keep changing my mind on weather or not I believe this claim. Part of me thinks no way with such a bad 6 0ft, part of me thinks great another quick NA Z. I would lean more towards no, but Id like to be proven wrong. As far as me going 12.8-I would need perfect weather, and a much better launch, actually I only need a launch, cuz Bobby ran 12.7 in 90+ degrees. I believe my launch is whats holding me back. With -2.3 camber in the rear, and a stiff suspension(no weight transfer), Id say its gonna be a little harder for me to nail that 1.7 60ft....

 

yea if you look at the guys car its done up with a body kit and lowered and so forth.. cars like that usually arnt focused too seriously on racing and thats what he would have to be to cut a 12.8 on street tires. The only explanation of his time is he has the perfect naturally aspirated mods that give him 300 to 315 to the wheels where i havnt seen any cars that even come close. I sent him an email and im waiting to see if he responds.

 

He wont hit 300whp with no headwork.....Im also curious to see if he can prove his times.

 

Oh ok, i didnt see that on the thread

Yes i believe it is possible on "DOT approved" tires. I'm talking about a serious NA car motor though with weight redux.

 

It looks like he has a bunch of stuff.....cams, flywheel, clutch, pulleys, intake, exhaust, ECU.....what is so hard to believe about high 12's with that setup?? We all know that a bone stock Z can break into the 13's with a decent driver, so it better be AT LEAST as fast as 12's with all that **** on it. Personally, I am planning to build a VQ motor for 500 crank hp with NO forced induction at all.

Brian (doesnt get how some people think the only way to go fast is to go FI)

 

First off, nobody here, especially me and Raptor said it had to be FI to be fast. We have the 2 fastest NA Z's that we know of, dont feed us that. The Z in question has a clutch/FW, Borla headers, AND CAMS over my mods, and he only traps .5mph faster than me I know from experience that a stock Z with a good driver can hit 13's, Ive done it. What I also know from experience is what a Z with around 260rwhp (mine and raptors power levels) can do down the 1/4 with good driving-given the 60ft's. Look above at what I posted about the difference between mine and Bobby's times, its all LAUNCH. Even with a 2mph increase over his trap he kicks my a$$ down the 1/4. Know why? THE LAUNCH. Now take a Z with a very similar trap speed to mine and tell me he runs .3 faster with the same launch of course Im going to doubt it. Especially cuz I know hes not outdriving me. Go to the track, run well into the 13's, and do numerous runs on slicks so you know what its like in a Z to pull a decent 60ft, then come back to me about "it better be at LEAST as fast as 12's" BLAH BLAH.
Until then, reading times online will be more than just a goal for you. And as far as your 500chp NA Z

 

first off he has BF goodrich street tires, and many people have his "heavily modded" setup and dont run nearly as well. and i dont think its all that much in terms of modifying, its not like a standalone fuel system or high compresion pistons and the launch wasnt even great. No amount of cool air or perfect shifting or a slanted track could produce those numbers.

 

Oh jeez....someone get me a violin

Oh well, you may not know what you are talking about but at least there are other people on this board who do.

Brian (is done playing this game now and is reminded of why he seldom ventures into the racing section of the board)

 

Blah, blah. I dont know what Im talking about huh? Lol, keep dreaming...

 

Alberto, I must say you and Bobby give me something to shoot for....stop raising the bar! lol

See, I'm in a different boat then both of you. Alberto, you have .3 on me at the track with the same 60', but you have 6mph of trap to separate us. I don't know how modding more will affect me.

I got mods that will help my top end, and have about the same trap with the same 60'. From what I understand, a spacer should show the most gains from 80-110, and the same deal with my gutted RT's but somehow I turned up with a high 101 again.

I even trapped higher stock than I did Tuesday night. I'm going to try for 13.3's at 102 next week, but I just don't know how much more I can do. I'm thinking its possible to get 1 more degree of timing out of my mess of an ECU if I add just a bit more 103 octane. After that, I'm going to try a higher stall, 3.53 gear swap, drive down to AAM for a tune, and possibly a valve body, but I don't have enough power for the trans slip on a shift.

I want to in the future future, like by next fall do cams and rod bolts...and get my rev limiter raised to 7400