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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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You shouldnt have beat even a stock 98 GT by multiple car lengths if your running 15.4-unless it was loaded with 4 fat chicks and the driver had palsy, but good kill Can you link us to a drag regisrty of some V-6 1/4 times with mods? Id like to see what they are capable of...
my car should be running a 14.8-15.0 but that shift is messed up, i never ran it on the track with the chip off, i only got 3 total runs in ever so i dindt want to run with the chip off, i was in denial that my 175 dollar chip wasnt working right. However i am confident i'll see high 14s this spring and summer with my current mods. The pre 99 v8 mustangs struggle up high, also a 1998 gt runs a 15.4 stock, and after 70 it starts to get slughish, my car is way faster up top htan a 1998 Gt, 99 gt, thats a differnt story.


here is a link
http://www.v6power.net/portal/timeslips/
We also have a dyno page
http://www.v6power.net/dyno/

and 3.8 mustang doesnt get all the good numbers but they have a page too:
http://www.3.8mustang.com/timeslips/
** note that the timeslip page needs to be updated, a lot of stuff happend over the weekend, and a 9 sec car should be up on there within the next few months (guy has to practice his driving) we have a 10.4 sec @ 135 mph time that needs to be added, and a completly n/a no nitorus 11.89 sec time that needs to be added. We also have a guy with all bolt ons running a 14.1 with an auto convertible (heavy)

do you guys have a timeslip/dyno page?

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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 02:40 PM
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i have a 95 cobra with basic bolt ons(exhaust, pullies, cai, tb) and it goes low 13's on street tires. If you copy and paste the addy in my sig its got everything listed.

I just think its cool that someone posted an event like this one on the forum. I'm sure there are plenty of guys on here that are on the edge of trying something new with some fellow enthusiasts, and the invite is an awesome gesture(sp?)
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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^Yea keep Posting what I sent you.. thats your warning keep running your mouth

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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Vick781
^Yea keep Posting what I sent you.. thats your warning keep running your mouth
e thug

are you going to kill me? by the way im not running my mouth. Im typing
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 03:04 PM
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^ E- thug haha thats all you got?

Why would I kill a worthless coward like you? nah its just waste of time... enjoy ur 15 secs of fame...
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 03:17 PM
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if this is fame, well ok. keep on thuggin bro. all da gangstas post on the web fo rizzle
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 03:31 PM
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jackie chan = corbon
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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OH OH OH I am so in on this.

I have raced Import vs Domestic at Maryland International Raceway. The class is hybrid-modified: naturally aspirated 6-cylinders and 4-cylinders with one power adder. If my memory serves me, not one domestic competed in the class. No Fords.

So there are plenty of opportunities for Ford vs 350Z out there, but Fords just do not show.
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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David they dont show because FORD-Found On Road Dead...or First On Race Day when nobody else shows up
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 12:13 AM
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we have our UTL import vs. domestic in detroit, and the one time i went, i didnt see a single nissan that was younger than 10 years old, all i saw were a few 240Zs. 99% of the imports were SRT-4s (its really sports compact vs. domestic, but they classify the supra as a sports compact, and a ford focus a sports compact, but a grand prix a domestic) i dont really get their logic. Basicly 4 banger american cars= import, any japanese car= import, v6 and v8 american cars are domestic. pontiac fiero is import in that class for some odd reason (probably the mid engine arrangement). So they really have no logic behind it all.

Basicly its just traditional american cars (mustang vette, camaro etc..) and new stuff lol.

but anyhow i didnt see any 350Zs there at all, i was the only v6 mustang there that i knew of. The SRT-4s hogged most the place up lol.


but here is what i ran, i've only ran 3 times in my life on that day, i will be back for more this spring and summer.

You can see from my timeslips that my car has a serious problem with its 1st to 2nd shift (due to my performance chip not being tuned very well)
I was using the stock tires and rims, 3 week old 93 octane (was away at college for 3 weeks), 6k miles on the oil (amsoil 5w30), air temp was 80-85 degrees.
Modifications: CAI, y pipe back magnaflow exhaust, 1.8 roller rockers, and a chip that is less effective than a pringle chip, because this made my car slower (soon to be retuned though)

automatic 3.8 v6 mustang weight fully loaded is about 3200 lbs, i had a 1/2 tank so - 8 gallons of weight (60 lbs about), 3140 lbs -40lbs for spare removed 3160lbs+ my 210 lbs fat ***= 3370 lbs.

Best run was:
Reaction==== +.3039
60 ft======= 2.3001
330 ft=======6.5510
594 ft=======9.4061
1/8==========10.0362 (did an ok shift by manually makeing it shift but still thats hard to do)
1/8mph======71.41
1000'========12.9741
1/4=======15.4862
1/4 mph=========89.45

2nd best run:
reaction: +.2090
60ft===== 2.2680
330ft====6.5770
594 ft====9.5310
1/8 ET======10.1758
1/8 mph=======69.78mph
1000'========13.1570
1/4 et======15.6850
1/4 mph =======88.93mph

the final run my friend told me to just floor and see what happend, just say my 60 foot time was normal, and my 1/4 - 1/8 mile time was about the same as the last two, but my 60 ft to 660 ft time was messed up. My 330 ft time increase by .2 secs. my 594 ft time another .2 secs added to that and i ran a 16 flat, so basicly that 1-2 shift screwed it up by .6 secs

i knew there was a problem with my chip and i thought that maybe the engine tune would compensate for the lack of good shifting, however i raced my friends grand prix in a big parking lot behind a huge wearhouse that we guestimated to be a 1/4 mile since i hit 90mph at the make shift finish line. I raced him on it with the chip on (as i assuemd it was better than stock tune) and i lost 3 times in a row, then turned the chip off and barely beat him. His car ran a 15.2 at milan all day and night like clock work. I could see that my car would stay even out of the hole then once i shifted i lost a whole car on him Then he told me to turn the damn thing off, and i was even faster out of the hole. Maybe my chip was tuned for too high of an octane and its running too advance? idk?

So yea, my car isnt that great yet, but i plan on doing some things once i get some money. This summer i am deffinently hitting 14s though, and if my job treats me well i'll be hoping for an intake manifold port job and some mid 14s.
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but anyhow i didnt see any 350Zs there at all[/ QUOTE]
I agree. Consider that there are less than 120,000 350Zs on the road. How many compete in drag racing? 1 percent? Its possible for me to race during the entire season, and not see another 350Z.
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 06:43 AM
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Hey Alberto, I know a local guy you might want to run. Dan Haga with the 98 v6 mustang. I think he's turbod now making even more power. http://www.extremev6racing.com/timeslips.html
http://www.extremev6racing.com/dhaga.html
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Mantis3024
Hey Alberto, I know a local guy you might want to run. Dan Haga with the 98 v6 mustang. I think he's turbod now making even more power. http://www.extremev6racing.com/timeslips.html
http://www.extremev6racing.com/dhaga.html
yea, dan the man that started it all, one day dan smoked some crazy chronic and got the idea to make a v6 mustang fast, he's the ****!

yea i havent heard much about him on v6power, but i dont go extremev6racing much, i may have cancled my account there because i got at least 30 e-mails a day from them and it annoyed the crap out of me.

there are under 5 turbocharged built-engine v6 mustangs on the road that i know of. In fact i can only think of one off hand, Matt whose car ran 10.3, and soon 9s on the older single port heads (i'd imagine that the older heads are better than thre split port with all that boost)

If you know anything about the grand nationals, you'd probably know they are 3.8 litre engines, the ford 3.8 v6 is very similiar to the gm 3800 in block strength. Some may argue that the 20 year newer v6 mustang engine has more potential as the block material is thicker. No one has yet tapped the block for 4 bolt mains, stud girlde and turbocharged yet with forged everything, but hopefully that will soon happen.

I'd like to see a 30 psi v6 mustang TT.

i didnt realize that there are only 120,000 350zs on the road, i knew they werent that common but damn. Well then again ford cranks out about 250,000 mustangs a year, 180,000 of which are v6es, and about 5 per year get moderatly modded and about 1 gets super modded, that is with the v6 intact. I'd imagine more people pull the v6 engine than actually use it, and throw a v8 in, a costly venture that has no logic behind it for performance, but maybe just the v8 nostalgia, wanting to have a bigger pecker affect. If you want a 10 sec car and own a v6 mustang, its cheaper to just use the v6 then to spend the tons of money required to do an engine swap.

The other fact is people who buy v6es in the first place buy them cuz they are young/dont want to spend a lot of money, then get this urge for power all of a sudden and never had that much money in the start to start out with.

I'd say over all though the v6 stang/ 350z drag racing should be a good clean competition, we both have our +/-s.

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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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you guys are a trip, yeah the only mustang GT that you would beat with your times is one on the back of the car carrier on its way to the Ford dealership. hehehe jk kinda...
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 09:22 AM
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you guys are a trip, yeah the only mustang GT that you would beat with your times is one on the back of the car carrier on its way to the Ford dealership. hehehe jk kinda...
our fastest v6 does a 10.3@129mph secs, was rebuilt with a better turbo set up and did 10.4 @ 135 (big mph number= with practice 9s will be had), damn if i knew the mustan GTs did under 10.3 stock, i sure would have hell bought one.


BTW my car is barely even modded, cold air intake and exhaust, a chip that doesnt work, and roller rockers lol.

Our fastest NATURALY ASPIRATED, all motor, no nitrous v6 does 11.89 in the 1/4 mile.


A mustang GT brand new costs 4 grand more brand new than a v6 mustang, and has twice the insurance and not to mention ****tier gas mileage. With just the 4k difference in sticker price added to a v6 mustang, you'd have an 11 sec all day all night reliable turbo v6 mustang, then add afew more grand for forged internals and you can run 10s all day and night.

An 05 v6 mustang with just a tune, and intake made 240 rwhp and 250 rwhp, and ran mid 14s.

An 05+ v6 mustang with just a 3k dollar supercharger kit made 400 rwhp.

ford it seems restricts the hell out of the v6 from the factory so it doesnt compete with the v8, much like how gm restriced the LS1 in the F-bodys so they wouldnt kill the vettes.

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Sounds cool... I would be down but you dont have any coming by me.
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Sounds cool... I would be down but you dont have any coming by me.
are you in NY?
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Originally Posted by Mantis3024
Hey Alberto, I know a local guy you might want to run. Dan Haga with the 98 v6 mustang. I think he's turbod now making even more power. http://www.extremev6racing.com/timeslips.html
http://www.extremev6racing.com/dhaga.html
Wow over 400rwhp, 114 mph trap a decent 1.9 60ft ansd 12.6? Can you say slow shifting....
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Wow over 400rwhp, 114 mph trap a decent 1.9 60ft ansd 12.6? Can you say slow shifting....
some people are good mechanics, others are good race car drivers, few are good at both, thats why God invented the high stall converter+automatic combo.

another factor might be the gearing is differnt, what are the gear ratios on the 6 speed MT for the 350z, as well as your final drive ratio?

V6 mustang stock is 3.27, options for the rear are 3.55, 3.73,4.10.
The automatic gears i know off the top of my head for the 4 speed pre 05 (i own one) but other than that i'd have to look them up
2.84, 1.33, 1, .7 :1 1st-4th gears

the big flaw to the v6 mustang is the fact that we have the exact same transmission and final drive ratio as the v8 big brothres.

idealy our cars would have along the lines of what the 350z uses ( i looked the gearing up a long time ago and cant remember where i found it, forgot what it was)

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