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Old 06-12-2006, 02:45 PM
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Went to Bradenton this Saturday for the first time with my Z. Conditions were 98 degrees with high humidity with a slight head wind(coming toward us?). Three Z's ran that day- Me(2003 Base), Z#1(2004 Touring) and Z#2(2004 Base); they'll chime in if they want.

Mods: Me- Pop-charger, Stillen TP's, Injen SES, B@M Short shifter and SUN Hyper Force Ignition with 100 octane(Don't know if this helps but Sunoco's are all over the place so why not!)

Z#1- Pop-charger, Kinetic Resonated TP's, Stillen Exhaust, mrev2 with 5/16 spacer, UR pulley and Utec with tuner/100 octane(Tuned by him)

Z#2- Pop-charger, Borla TD, grounding kit and 5/16 spacer running 93

The reason I titled this post the way I did is because I was the only one to trap 100 mph and did it several times. Also, I was the only one to break into the 13's with a 13.96. And to be honest, I felt they were cutting better 60' times. I believe the best trap for Z#1 was 99.6 and for me 100.9. Z#2 ran consistent 14.2's. Why the hell was my car running the fastest times? I think if Z#2 got some TP's he'd be faster. Z#1- We thought that maybe he has no idea what he's doing with the utec but his A/F logs were spot on and when he took some timing out he ran a full 1mph if not more slower trap. Well, I left my three best slips at a buddy's house but here's one with 100.39 trap.

60' ... 2.296
330 ... 6.159
1/8 ... 9.259
MPH ... 79.91
1000 ... 11.934
1/4 ... 14.172
MPH ... 100.39

Our conclusion was that the 03 base is far lighter than the 2004 touring and that Z#2 needs TP's. Don't you guys think i'm the least modded or maybe that ignition is more then engine bay bling? Damn, running faster than cars with plenum mods!

General Note: I've got to give Z#1 props, even though I was trapping faster and getting better ET's he was straight whipping me on R/T. Cat busted a .008 and a few .012-.015's and was his first time ever at a track. I think out of our last five runs I beat him once to the line?

Hey, before all the "you guys can't drive" haters chime in, we did cut some 2.1 60' times (Z#1 did it on stock 18's with some old *** ventus tires) and I think sometimes 100 degree weather in Florida can be humbling to a car and driver. Even a heavily modded WRX was struggling to get 13.1's
Old 06-12-2006, 03:03 PM
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yeah, it was kinda hot.
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Old 06-12-2006, 03:10 PM
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I knew you'd bust that out! Its pretty sad how a day at the track with 100 degree temps. can take more out of you than a night of drinking... I didn't do ish yesterday!
Old 06-12-2006, 03:12 PM
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When is the next time you guys are going to the track? My car is almost broken in and I wanna see what kind of times I can get with mine!
Old 06-12-2006, 03:19 PM
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I don't know? I was planning on going to the 1/8 mile track(Sunshine Speedway) next time because I have got to get better at that. I would like to run Bradenton on a Thursday night but I heard i gets pretty busy. But hell, I'll run in 100 degree weather again, I'll PM you a couple of days in advance.
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Hmm.. I guess your conditions were similar to mine. I had my first time ever drag experience last week. The temperatures were in the high 90s until the sun went down and then it was in the low90s/high80s.

My times were consistently in the 14.1-14.2 range. My reaction times were pretty bad though, usually at .4ish. My 60' never improved and stayed around 2.2-2.3.

My personal best was 14.021 at 101.39 mph. My mods are just a popcharger and MREV2, but to counter those mods, I have heavy wheels. I was so disappointed that I couldn't get into the 13s, but I did get sh!tload of compliments about my beautiful car.

What rpm were you guys launching your cars?
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2000 rpm's or so with 275's on 18's with 20 psi and still spun a bit.
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
Hmm.. I guess your conditions were similar to mine. I had my first time ever drag experience last week. The temperatures were in the high 90s until the sun went down and then it was in the low90s/high80s.

My times were consistently in the 14.1-14.2 range. My reaction times were pretty bad though, usually at .4ish. My 60' never improved and stayed around 2.2-2.3.

My personal best was 14.021 at 101.39 mph. My mods are just a popcharger and MREV2, but to counter those mods, I have heavy wheels. I was so disappointed that I couldn't get into the 13s, but I did get sh!tload of compliments about my beautiful car.

What rpm were you guys launching your cars?
What was your 60' on that run. With that speed I think a low 2.2 should have got you in the 13's. Although, I am getting caught up in the every tracks the same thing so maybe my statement is way off!
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For that particular one (which is my best one)

R/T - .424
60' - 2.214
330 - 6.020
1/8 - 9.122
mph - 79.68
1000 - 11.778
1/4 - 14.021
mph -101.39

Like I said, I blame the climate and the heavy wheels.. My 60' isn't that great but I should still be in the 13s.
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well i am in orlando and went to the track last wed. a few bolt ons with a utec tuned by me, i was runing 13.2 at 106. it was nice and hot too. cant wait till it gets cooler....
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What I don't understand is, even if I get a 60' foot time of 2.0 or lower, that's only a .2 seconds or slightly more off my final quarter mile time, correct? In which case, I would still only come out with a 13.8 or slightly lower. With a popcharger and MREV2, countered by my KZ-A rims (8.5 with 245s and 9.5 with 275), does that sound right to you guys? I launched at 2000 most of the times. I tried 2250rpms and I got a 60' of 2.3. Pretty much the same 60' for lower than 2000rpms.

So, if my car's running about right, what are these people with 13.6 - 14.0 second cars, BONE STOCK (nothing changed)? Are they just on a faster track? Are they using slicks to get that? I just can't seem to comprehend my times when compared to some of these other lower times with less or no mods.

edit - I guess, it could've been the climate. Does the climate have that much of an effect on the times and mph? (I'm assuming the 60' doesn't really matter)

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Old 06-12-2006, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
What I don't understand is, even if I get a 60' foot time of 2.0 or lower, that's only a .2 seconds or slightly more off my final quarter mile time, correct? In which case, I would still only come out with a 13.8 or slightly lower. With a popcharger and MREV2, countered by my KZ-A rims (8.5 with 245s and 9.5 with 275), does that sound right to you guys? I launched at 2000 most of the times. I tried 2250rpms and I got a 60' of 2.3. Pretty much the same 60' for lower than 2000rpms.

So, if my car's running about right, what are these people with 13.6 - 14.0 second cars, BONE STOCK (nothing changed)? Are they just on a faster track? Are they using slicks to get that? I just can't seem to comprehend my times when compared to some of these other lower times with less or no mods.
on street tires yes. most of these guys hitting low 13's with bolt on's are running drag radials or slicks and getting monster launches. plus most of them can shift like crazy. never lift to shift, as bert would say.
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Your post is a bit confusing with the me and car #1 and #2 stuff but...

The car is picking up 20mph in the second 660 feet. Considering that the temperature was 98 degrees, I would be happy with those numbers. The 2.29 second sixty foot time: 98 degrees and, say 80 percent humidity, makes the staging pad like a slip-and-slide. Maybe 2.29 seconds is the best that you are going to get on street tires.

My racing season is from March to November. I begin with a 13.40 second ET. July and August are about 14.10 seconds. In November I’m back to 13.40 seconds. High temperatures hurt ET.
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Originally Posted by audiblemayhem
well i am in orlando and went to the track last wed. a few bolt ons with a utec tuned by me, i was runing 13.2 at 106. it was nice and hot too. cant wait till it gets cooler....
How much of your interior is still in the car? I'm not concerned about times as much as the comparison between me and the other two Z's running. Audiblemayhem, those are impressive times no doubt, but you've got more going for you i.e. weight reduction, plenum mods, utec and from what I read on your thread that 13.2 was on drag radials.

I've seen many people claim that Alberto has a factory freaks and he has posted his base dyno's that seem to dispute that. Thats kinda where I'm going with this. I trapped 1 mph more than Ztampa and he has mrev2, 5/16 spacer and utec. Am I to believe that if I add those mods to my car it'll be slower? Me and Ztampa modded Honda's together and now Z's so were kind of grounded as for as mod expectations go but it just seems he should be much faster than me.

Once again, in conclusion, I believe its weight and nothing else. I dont believe my royal purple oil and ignition are a factor at all. Hey Ztampa, since you interior is fugly anyways... lets rip it out!
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Originally Posted by davidv
Your post is a bit confusing with the me and car #1 and #2 stuff but...

The car is picking up 20mph in the second 660 feet. Considering that the temperature was 98 degrees, I would be happy with those numbers. The 2.29 second sixty foot time: 98 degrees and, say 80 percent humidity, makes the staging pad like a slip-and-slide. Maybe 2.29 seconds is the best that you are going to get on street tires.

My racing season is from March to November. I begin with a 13.40 second ET. July and August are about 14.10 seconds. In November I’m back to 13.40 seconds. High temperatures hurt ET.
Well, my best 60' was 2.106 on my 13.9 run. Look at the mods between car and tell me why I'm running faster et's and traps. Also, its not because I'm a better drive(which is disappointing) because we were cutting the same 60' times and Ztampa was still beating me to the line due to his studly R/T's.
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Originally Posted by one350zfan
Well, my best 60' was 2.106 on my 13.9 run. Look at the mods between car and tell me why I'm running faster et's and traps. Also, its not because I'm a better drive(which is disappointing) because we were cutting the same 60' times and Ztampa was still beating me to the line due to his studly R/T's.
Sure would be nice to see some time slips.
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I'm sorry, I left my three best slips at a buddy's house because Ztampa was there and I wanted to back up the fact I ran faster ET's than him. Maybe Ztampa and Outdoorsmen will post some slips but the #'s I posted was the best slip of the ones I had left.

It would be helpful if we had the slips but trust me that I was running faster traps and ET's than the other two Z's!
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differrence between drivers?
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yeah i ran 12.9 at 106 with 251 SAE corrected hp on a dynojet. its all about weight. my car is no freak, a lot has to do with the driving, i rape my gears and never let off the gas, it stays down from when i first launch till when i cross the finish. i have drag radials on the car yes for my daily driving tires, they are 265/40/18s BFGs. they actually hook better on the street than i think they do at the track. ???

usually every tenth you can knock off on your 60 equaters to 2 tenths on the top end. this isnt true everytime but it kinda equals out like that.

man i wish it was colder, it was 95 during the day last wed at the track, 85 when i was running and got down to maybe like 80 with lots of humidity. too bad i wont be NA much longer cause this same setup right now would have to be good for 108-109 mph traps
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Originally Posted by idwin
differrence between drivers?

There sure is... I'm better looking!

Seriously, to be honest, looking at their slips at the track they seemed to be driving better than me!

Maybe Ztampa will post a comparable slip as far as 60' times and compare the traps. However, he's against thread & post counts so unless your posting utec n/a maps you might not get a response


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